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(sub: apologies for non-sneer but I’m curious)

tbh I suspect I know exactly what you reference[0] and there is an extended conversation to be had about that

it doesn’t in any manner eliminate the foundational problems in specificity that many of these have, they still have the massive externalities problem in operation (cost/environmental transfer), and their foundational function still relies on having stripmined the commons and making their operation from that act without attribution

I don’t believe that one can make use of these without acknowledging this. do you agree? and in either case whether you do or don’t, what is the reason for your position?

(separately from this, the promises I handwaved to are the varieties of misrepresentation and lies from openai/google/anthropic/etc. they’re plural, and there’s no reasonable basis to deny any of them, nor to discount their impact)

[0] - as in I think I’ve seen the toots, and have wanted to have that conversation with $person. hard to do out of left field without being a replyguy fuckwit

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@froztbyte Yeah, having in-depth discussions are hard with Mastodon. I keep wanting to write a long post about this topic. For me, the big issues are environmental, bias, and ethics.

Transparency is different. I see it in two categories: how it made its decisions and where it got its data. Both are hard problems and I don’t want to deny them. I just like to push back on the idea that AI is not providing value. 😃

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@froztbyte As for the issue of transparency, it’s ridiculously hard in real life. For example, for my website, I used a format I created called “blogdown”, which is Markdown combined with a template language to make it easy to write articles. I never cited my sources, nor do I think I could. From decades of programming, how can I cite everything I’ve ever learned from?

As for how AI is transparent for arriving at decisions, this falls into a separate category and requires different thinking.

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