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33 points

Fairphones should be supported imo. CalyxOS relocks the bootloader and they supported the FP5 right after launch.

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CalyxOS relocks the bootloader and they supported the FP5 right after launch.

CalyxOS is not a hardened OS, and GrapheneOS requires more than than just relocking the bootloader.

Fairphone’s devices do not meet basic security requirements for hardware, firmware and the software device support including drivers. Please look at the hardware requirements at https://grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices and check for yourself how many of those are provided by the Fairphone. Even the Fairphone 5 has a CPU core from 2021 without even PAC and BTI.

Ref: https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/7208-8y-security-updates-on-fairphone-5-will-the-devs-consider-porting-grapheneos

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8 points

Thanks for the info!

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31 points

Fairphone should sell phones outside of Europe

Unfortunately neither of us get what we want

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6 points

Oh they dont? 0.o I didnt know that, weird

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Mmmhm. I’ve been eyeing them since their first phone. I’m sure they will offer even the most basic “international shipping with no warranty or support” any day now…

my skeleton, 64 years from now, in front of a computer with the website loaded, waiting for the global debut

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4 points

You can get the previous model (FairPhone 4) in the US through Murena.

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7 points

Paying full price for a phone that was weak when it released 3 years ago that is also missing most US cell bands and is locked to T-Mobile.

Oh and also the parent company doesn’t ship anything to the US, so parts are aftermarket only.

That’s not available in the US: that’s you can hack together a workaround.

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5 points

gos is open source. If the fairphone people wanted to maintain a fork of GOS for their phones, they could.

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And they could discuss w/ GrapheneOS devs about upstreaming changes and collaborating on longer-term support. I highly doubt GOS project has the resources and desire to support another phone line.

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4 points

https://grapheneos.org/faq

Many other devices are supported by GrapheneOS at a source level, and it can be built for them without modifications to the existing GrapheneOS source tree. Device support repositories for the Android Open Source Project can simply be dropped into the source tree, with at most minor modifications within them to support GrapheneOS. In most cases, substantial work beyond that will be needed to bring the support up to the same standards. For most devices, the hardware and firmware will prevent providing a reasonably secure device, regardless of the work put into device support.

if fair phone wanted to, they could, but gos will not volunteer for the work.

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Fairphones aren’t even anywhere close to meeting the security requirements of GrapheneOS. Daniel Micay explained this many times, most notably in this Reddit thread (before they left Reddit and switched to their own, self-hosted forum) https://redlib.nohost.network/r/GrapheneOS/comments/10b5x4n/has_anyone_managed_to_install_grapheneos_on_a/j67pbny

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I think some op phones also meet the requirements.

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