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@oakey66@lemmy.world started this thread with the topic:

If every hostage was returned, Israel would be looking for every opportunity to level Gaza and further displace Palestinians in the West Bank.

and they are right.

You said:

But let’s not pretend they’re a hive mind.

I pointed out that I’ve seen there are no sources I’ve seen to the contrary coming out of Israel. Everything I’ve seen to the contrary (sources which would make the argument that Israel should not be engaging in genocide, agreeing with @oakey66@lemmy.world 's point ) has been coming from diaspora sources, not sources within Israel.

You then responded with:

just read the headline of the post

But the headline of the article does not make that point, and neither does the article. In fact, its another unit of evidence to suggest there is almost no will to stop the genocide of the Gazan people coming from within Israel. The word genocide occurs no where in the article. There is no mention of forced removal. There is no mention of ethnic cleansing. These protests clearly have nothing to do with the ongoing genocide of the Gazan people and are solely focused on “getting the hostages back”. If there are other sources or people that can speak for the protests that say other wise, I’d love to find them. I’ve not found anyone in Israel willing to call what the Israeli government is doing a genocide. Dissent in Israel wants the hostages back, but they don’t seem to give a shit about the continuing genocide of the Gazan people.

If you think that these protest have anything to do with stopping the war or stopping the genocide, its yourself who has gaslit you.

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Let me get this straight…

Are you really claiming that the entire population of Israel- all 9.5 million people- share exactly the same opinion on Palestine?

Because that would be incredibly fucking bigoted of you, so I want to make sure that’s what you’re saying.

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No, I’m making the point that if there is descent on this issue within Israel I can’t find it. I haven’t heard it. I’m also not going to project a desire to believe it exists onto a world where I don’t have evidence for it. I want to find it. I’ve looked for it. I can’t find it.

All the Jewish led criticism I’ve found of Israels actions appears to be coming from the diaspora. I can’t find sources from within Israel calling the Israeli campaign a genocide or calling for it to stop.

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How many people have you actually heard from? Let’s say percentagewise- what percentage of the 9.5 million Israelis have you heard from to determine that there is no dissent?

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