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Human is also operating that crane. You wouldnโ€™t trust the operator AND the machine to work flawlessly enough to walk under the load

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The stationary crane comparison doesnโ€™t carry over to dangerous machines in the context of transport.

The only proven way to make cycling and walking safe is by separating motor traffic from other modes of transport, by way of cycleways along main roads, and filtering minor roads to restrict through-motor-traffic.

When you have no such safe infrastructure and the entire dialog is โ€œbe careful around those dangerous carsโ€, then there is clearly a problem.

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Youโ€™re right in that there should be safe space for pedestrians and cyclists to travel, but itโ€™s exactly the same reason as the crane case: to keep them safe from dangerous cars and other heavy vehicles.

Repeating again, I do agree with your point but the reasoning you used was just wrong. You donโ€™t walk blind in front of a moving car because itโ€™s fucking dumb thing to do. Thereโ€™s an imperfect human driving a 2 ton imperfect vehicle traveling at high speed. You WILL always lose if anything goes wrong, were you right or wrong.

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Who is saying itโ€™s OK to walk blind in front of a car? Nobody is claiming you shouldnโ€™t be wary around vehicles because we all know how dangerous they can be. The point is that telling pedestrians to be careful is often a substitute for a complete lack of action on safe infrastructure.

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