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Sadly thats fediverse, instance come and go as they like. Because behind them are humans that do this in their freetime ( most of the time out of their own pocket ). Big respect to everyone hosting a federated instance.

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It shouldn’t be like this. If we keep treating the Fediverse as just a scrappy, amateur effort, it will never reach its full potential and it will be forever just a niche thing.

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@rglullis @Rooki (OT: the last paragraph in the post has a couple of typos. I believe it should be TINSTAAFL (also I recommend making it an abbr for the less informed), and there is an “under” that should probably be “understand”)

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“No such thing as a free lunch” (alternatively, “There ain’t no such thing as a free lunch”, “There is no such thing as a free lunch” or other variants, sometimes called Crane’s law[1]) is a popular adage communicating the idea that it is impossible to get something for nothing. **The acronyms TANSTAAFL, TINSTAAFL, and TNSTAAFL are also used. **

You are right about the “under”, though. I “accidently half a word”, there. Will fix.

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But you can already see the hurdles of large instance like lemmy.world.

The costs are so immense (probably because of some unoptimized code), the software isnt “ripe” enough that it can be left alone for few months and have it run smoothly. It needs permanent monitoring and maintenance. And that doesnt even go into the moderation issues.

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Aren’t you kind of making my point?

I am saying that the Fediverse will only be sustainable if everyone pays a little bit. Relying on a few generous souls to make up for the thousands of freeloaders will always take every instance to a ceiling which is, frankly speaking, very low. LW has 18k MAU. This number is laughably low for any social network.

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I totally get where they’re coming from with that shutdown announcement. I’ve had to “talk myself off a ledge” a few times to not go the same route and shut mine down. Ended up making some server policy changes that helped, but there’s eventually going to be something else later.

If we keep treating the Fediverse as just a scrappy, amateur effort, it will never reach its full potential and it will be forever just a niche thing.

What suggestions do you have to change the way we’re treating/running it currently?

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What suggestions do you have to change the way we’re treating/running it currently?

Plain and simple, instances should require some form of contribution from all members. Let’s stop pretending that the people here can not pay a dollar or two per month.

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I actually kind of enjoy the “scrappy diy effort niche” thing.

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it’s fine if you want to have it as a hobby. It’s not fine if you want to destroy Big Tech.

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I don’t know exactly what happened. But I’m guessing he was doxxed and bullied by activists based on this post https://tenforward.social/@zyd/113086796304683411

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That sucks

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13 points

I believe in co-op instance management solution like beehaw uses.

$2.00/year would mean i would require 200 active paying users per year. thats not too bad

the world as it is with its twitter/reddit is survivor bias. so many other social media sites have come and gone, why would the fediverse be any different?

eventually it will be instances who solved for the long-term problems of financial solubility and technical maintenance requirements.

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