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Product elitism is dumb.

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79 points

It was fun before… like 20 years ago. Now it’s just… eh. Apple users don’t care about any of that. They want a device that “just works” and has their ecosystem. They’re trapped in it, but eh, what’s the point. They aren’t going to convert, and after converting some people you learn you just become tech support for them.

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82 points

Seriously, does anyone think Apple users care about unlocked bootloaders and LDAC codecs? They want whatever the new iOS features are and their AirPods to work seamlessly.

I have an Android phone and an iPhone, and they both do pretty much the same thing. I can do some things with Android that iOS can’t, but it’s nothing an average user couldn’t do without, or even know they’re missing.

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They’re also all made by heartless megacorps anyway. None of the companies are really ‘good’ just different forms of terrible.

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To be fair i do care quite a bit about that. Phones just make bad computers to me. Small screen and half is used by a keyboard.

They seem designed to frustrate me so “it just works (most times)” is the only way i can stomach owning one.

I have a dream where apple is forced to make ios fully open source and where screen/input devices can freely stream any system/OS from a dedicated server.

Iphones are so “cleverly” dumb it makes them usable.

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I think even the average users are becomming aware because of how inferior iOS is. For example, all these things I’m going to mention below are doable on any Android (no root or bootloader required) since 2015 or even older versions while iPhone cant do shit:

iPhone cant temporarily disable apps, can’t prevent apps from using networks, cant disable system apps, cant open multi apps in mutli windows, cant location spoof, cant disable any system app or feature, cant customize themes or control anything in comparison.

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Except when the shitty ecosystem fucks with everyone else. Eg. when trying to get files from an iOS device to another phone. You need to use 3rd party software, which is almost exclusively shit on iOS and (at least in my school) no iPad kiddie managed to use local file sharing websites. The real kicker? Sharing stuff from the teachers iPad to the students does not work reliably either. Never. 20 students, and Apple can’t manage to transport shit. We resorted to uploading it to Teams - so much for Apple’s nice ecosystem for easily sharing files, which ends up taking 15+ Minutes.

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I‘ve used Android and iPhones for multiple years. Now I am using an iPhone and I am very happy. Main reasons are build quality and software. It just works. And the main advantage is primarily if you use multiple Apple devices. And since Android phones are expensive as fuck, too, I don’t care about the price anymore

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They want a device that “just works” and has their ecosystem.

i have friends that struggle to pay rent and they’re forced to pay apple’s extortion-esque prices when something goes wrong or when purchasing their phones and equipment.

witnessing them suffer like this hits close to home for me because i grew up poor enough to ration out the government cheese & powdered milk along with asking extended family and begging neighbors for food so that we could stay alive until next payday and also because i’m tech savvy enough to understand how unscrupulously apple has behaved at creating this well designed trap of an ecosystem that’s actively easy to fall into and passively difficult to leave; locking my friends into a seeming perpetually repeating cycle of new iphones and government cheese.

i think that the icing on this shit-cake is that they’re all atleast vaguely aware that apple is screwing them over; but they still accept it because it either “just works” or it’s “all they know” and that blows my mind because 5-year-old-me HATED government powdered milk in my cereal enough to switch to oatmeal for breakfast if it were an option.

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They’re trapped in it

Oh my god, you really believe that.

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They are as trapped as people are requiring Adobe products even though they fuck them as hard, or even harder, as apple.

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Well I’m trapped in it (purchased software, connected devices). The fence is knee-high at most though.

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Weirdly, a lot of them seem to care a whole lot about the color of their speech bubbles in their sms app

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I’ve seen people spend money on less I guess

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And yet every time Apple announce a new product or feature, Android fans are here with their ‘welcome to the past’ memes.

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This isnt elitism, this is trying to show apple users they are being scammed. Sure, most of them are happy that way, but maybe some of us should have higher standards for ourselves

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0 points

Youre right, unfortunately the popular alternatives are not great, either.

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So you dislike Apple, then? All they do is product elitism.

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Yeah.

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