Fuck hijabs and Islam.
Fuck christofascists and tradwives.
Fuck hindu nationalists and caste systems.
Fuck any and every religion that insists they need to impose their ways on others to be in good favor with their God. Fuck them in any and every form.
Women can choose to wear a hijab, just like women can choose to be a stay at home parent, out of their free will. But pressuring them one way or the other is cringe.
Choosing to wear a hijab is totally cool, as long as it’s not because of a religion.
Religion uses coercion and indoctrination to control people.
It doesn’t matter if it’s state sanctioned or not: the social contract imposed by religion is violence. It doesn’t matter if it’s the government threatening jail time or your friends threatening social isolation. It’s coercive.
And you can’t distinguish between those who do it willingly and those who are forced: so a civil society can permit neither.
I grew up in a sect that I like to often describe as Beer Drinkin’ Christianity because it’s really chill about most things including homosexuality and gender. It wasn’t until I had grown out of it and basically gone full agnostic that I really realized how coercive even my version of religion had been. I could go on and on but the funniest thing to me was realizing during an Abnormal Psychology 101 course in college that my Church Camp basically used every last technique they listed for brain washing. It was a fun camp and not scary in any way but yet extremely manipulative in a subversive way.
Hijab is supposed to be voluntary under Islamic scripture. Islam does not include anything about having to impose anything on others. Attempting to downvote you results in a server error.
And Christians are supposed to give up all early possessions, renounce sex and serve God all their days.
What’s your point? Theory means fuck all.
Religions are coercive social structures. You cannot distinguish those doing it willingly from those corrected into “proper behavior”. As such a civil society can permit neither.
Re: downvotes - no idea why it’s not working, but your anger is obvious enough without it
Christians are not obligated to give up sex or “all early possessions”. At most they’re just obligated to give up personal trinkets during lent and fund the church. My point is that there is no coercion within Islam to wear a hijab, kinda like how there is no coercion within Christianity to be a virgin.
People who want to oppress women will do it regardless of means. Islam is just an excuse. There are many atheists who use their moral code instead.
To distinguish them, just get their confidence and ask them in a safe environment.
Can anybody with more knowledge about this explain this? I don’t know much about islam but i thought husbands and/or fathers would force women to wear them?
It’s a complex issue, but think of it like backwards fundamentalist Christians going ballistic over women (especially their daughters) wearing anything more revealing than a sweater. That kind of familial coercion is couched in religious terms and springs from religious values, but is not, strictly speaking, fundamental (ha) to the religion itself.
The root of the thing is that Islamic teachings require practitioners to dress modestly.
Interpretations of this range from “cover your sex bits” to “don’t show an inch of skin to anybody except your husband”.
No, it is obligatory according to the major schools of law in Islam, which the manority follow.
Here’s the section from Encyclopedia of Islamic law: a compendium of the views of the major schools by Laleh Bakhtiar (archive: https://archive.org/details/encyclopediaofis0000bakh/page/70/mode/2up )
Does it make a difference that it’s under the section “Prescribed Prayers”? Because the New Testament has a similar rule written in it that women have to cover their heads while praying.
