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You can degoogle on Android you know. Takes some effort, but the end result is better than moving into a walled garden.

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You can degoogle on Android you know.

only if your device is supported. Most aren’t…

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Lineage OS supports a few hundred devices

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LineageOS with microg works for most devices

Issue is that it is no secure. People should be buying pixels flashing calyx or graphene going forward for their next upgrade IMHO

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Issue is that it is no secure.

Explain. I’m tired of hearing this boogeyman, tell me exactly how Lineage is β€œnot secure” but Graphene is?

Then maybe give me some examples of cases where that difference has actually been a problem.

Because it feels like a lot of these β€œunsecure” things people hand-wring over are really just user freedoms they may use to hurt themselves, not actual vulnerabilities that can’t be avoided with common sense.

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Those are really quite rare. Most have workarounds these days or just work outright.

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Apps that don’t work are usually the worst privacy offenders lol

People will need to make a choice, corpos won’t make it easier for the slave

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I mean, you can be as snotty about this as you like, but it doesn’t change the fact this β€œchoice” is basically between participate in the same digital world as most people do with the most popular, most supported, and highest value apps, vs only what you can use in F Droid or something?

You’re calling them slaves but can you give them anything more appealing outside the walled garden than β€œprivacy”? It’s not like everything on the play store has an F-Droid corollary. You’re basically telling them to dramatically reduce their own use case. Does that make them a slave?

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