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Thatā€™s true on a technicality, but everyone knows what he meant. In the 2020 election, Biden got ~7 million more votes than Trump in addition to winning the electoral college. Trumpā€™s intent was to be intentionally misleading and to twist the qualifications to imply that he should have won last time when, in fact, he didnā€™t.

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Itā€™s a sobering detail of our situation. In 2020, Trump really did receive more votes than any candidate in any previous election. That means a ton of people showed up to vote for him in 2020 that hadnā€™t in 2016.

He frames it weird (and it sounded weird when he said it) because otherwise it raises the obvious point that Biden also achieved that same record, plus an extra 7 million votes.

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True, although population growth is a factor as well.

Like, it wouldnā€™t be surprising to see more total votes than in 1990, just because thereā€™s a lot more people. Let alone 1890. The ā€œmost everā€ has pretty declining meaning after going back just a couple of decades.

% of adult population would be more meaningful.

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I agree. Itā€™s technically true but intentionally misleading. That said, I think there are other, better examples to label as lies that donā€™t get into this gray area.

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