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Yeah but I think I’m okay with Germany’s stance on it, as I understand it at least.

It isn’t avoidance or denial, it seems to me, as much as total repudiation.

It strikes me as an appropriate response for a nation that is host to such an abomination, and worthy of emulation by any other nation that should ahem manage to make any similar mistakes.

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Well and you have partition and reunification as well, which must play into it. Postwar Germany seems to have been partially defined by a series of unique and almost absurd culture shocks as Germany encountered successively different versions of itself.

I hope this discussion doesn’t offend the Germans among us. My interest is earnest and genuine, and as an American in 2024, more than simply academic.

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Germany’s entire history since the fall of the Roman empire is just a series of culture shocks. East Francia, the clusterfuck of the HRE, the subsequent clusterfuck of Austria and Prussia, so on and so forth.

The only ones who had it worse were the Italians.

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