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The potential of Trump winning. Unless you live outside of the U.S. or are very privileged a Trump victory would only be devastating.

In a first past the post system like the U.S. has, doing anything but voting for Harris is in fact supporting Trump.

CCP Gray actually put out a good video a while ago explaining why voting 3rd party in a FPTP system only hurts your interests.

In a place like Germany where you have proportional voting none of this applies and you should 100% vote for the best party.

https://youtu.be/s7tWHJfhiyo?si=y2NtQ2K6g9GkaNwM

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Trump winning would have major ramifications for people outside the US also.

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True!

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Lol who downvoted this

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voting` 3rd party in a FPTP system only hurts your interests.

This position assumes that you as voter give a fuck if one or the other party wins.

Why would people care about these politcal parties that essentially do the same thing? If they do sure, vote for your guy but practically speaking for most people shit gets progressively worse as we cycle one geriatric clown for another.

Why not change things up?

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I mean if you don’t care if one party or the other wins you could do this, but that just means you are one or both of the following:

  1. Don’t have a sense of empathy for those who would be hurt by a Trump victory.

  2. Are personally privileged enough to not be affected personally. If you live in the USA and feel both parties do the same thing you must be.

Imagine all those people whose lives would be worsened in the USA and all around the world by a Trump victory. Don’t you care? Even the people of Palestine would be worse off and they are already suffering beyond either of our comprehensions.

I encourage everyone to vote with empathy here.

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  1. we had trump, and world did not end
  2. we had biden, and we did not get saved
  3. American quality of life has been progressively eroded since 2000s by a large margin as result of voting for the 2 parties.

How is voting for 2 parties going to get me out of this trajectory?

also… “empathy” is that what Biden administration use when they supply Israel with tools of genocide? this is not a serious argument…

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