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This is why I switched from Ubuntu to Debian.

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How has your experience been so far?

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Exactly that same, really. There were a few things I did that I liked about Ubuntu, like the tray icon extension, but otherwise its nearly identical minus snaps.

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installs Firefox LSR

(I am still very happy having made the switch to debian, although I would like to switch to plasma 6 at some point xD)

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Same here. What especially irritated me was that even though I installed the .deb firefox and followed the directions to disable snap firefox, occasionally Ubuntu went ahead and reinstalled snap firefox for me.

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Ubuntu was great, until Unity debacle, when I switched to Mint DE. Few years later I returned to an Unity free Ubuntu just to be welcomed with snaps and Ubuntu pro.

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Canonical have made the same mistake three times as far as desktop environments are concerned, IMO:

  1. 2004: went with GNOME
  2. 2010: made Unity as a way to rid themselves of the hostility of the GNOME devs
  3. 2017: Instead of leaving GNOME in the dust, they went back.

IMO using GNOME is an abusive relationship.

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For me it was when I was trying to use some Android tools and it tried to install the snap version. The snap version was broken of course.

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When I first returned to Linux several years ago I started with Ubuntu, since it was the only distro I had used. I got confused when I installed Firefox and other apps via apt but instead got snap versions. This (very miniscule) gripe is enough of a reason for me to not recommend Ubuntu to new users anymore.

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Itโ€™s not a miniscule gripe tho. Snap is still broken for many users, and relying on it for something as critical as a web browser is asking for trouble. Experimental technologies like snap should be opt-in for users who are willing to deal with the issues they create. Do they really expect a novice to see firefoxโ€™s filepicker not behaving correctly, and think โ€œAha, an XDG desktop portal issue! Let me drop everything Iโ€™m doing and go troubleshoot thatโ€ ? Ubuntu is meant to be linux for normies, they donโ€™t have the time or the knowledge to deal with snap.

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Ubuntu is dead on the desktop.

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