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It’s what happened to the internet. Devices were dumbed down to make the internet accessible for everyone. Now the “normies” are also on the internet, whereas in the past they’d belittle you for spending time on the computer.

In time, the Fediverse will also be easily accessible. And where there are normies, you’ll find corporate enshittification.

Edit: thanks for the downvotes because I explained the word “normification”. You’re overthinking this. It’s a term that has been around since before Reddit became popular. It’s a term that stems from 4chan. I don’t like the term, I just explained it. And yes, the corpos are to blame but they couldn’t do the things they do without a certain user base. And that’s not your typical tech savvy user base. How is that so difficult to understand?

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I’m not sure that categorizing people as “normies” is a great idea. nor is it a way to entice new people and voices to join and learn how to use the fediverse so that it can become a more reliable place.

i think blaming enshittification on “normies” is a lot easier than holding greedy corporations accountable for directly making everything worse. it’s surely easier, but the real issue remains unchecked.

if anything, it’s a good thing that more people are learning how much better the fediverse is. it helps the fediverse get stronger, not weaker.

“us” vs “them” is not a mindset that will produce anything except cesspools of toxicity. at least imho.

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blaming enshittification on “normies”

What’s really annoying is it’s straight out of the corpo playbook.

“We’re not responsible for ______, you are because you didn’t do enough ________”.

The most blatant is “global warming” and “ate too much meat/didn’t recycle enough/made poor choices with your car” and so on.

It’d be nice if people would stop trying to blame the worst offenses being perpetuated on people by billionaires and their pet corporations on personal choices, because it’s hot liquid bullshit.

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I didn’t coin the term and I too believe it’s a huge generalization. However, “simpler” people are more susceptible to ads. The “normies” in question are the ones that don’t use adblockers, they believe ads are normal and they believe ads don’t affect them. Corporations capitalize on that. Better tech education would definitely help take some power away from corporations.

Edit: even now you’ll find people that use Lemmy apps that have ads. The bigger the user base, the more greedy companies will find ways of exploiting the Fediverse.

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Better tech education would definitely help take some power away from corporations

If you truly believe that, then vilifying more “simple” and less tech-savvy individuals is not the way to do it. Don’t be angry that they click on ads. Be angry that they’ve been poisoned to think that behavior is normal on the internet.

Education is absolutely possible for those new to things like the fediverse. But education doesn’t work when you use those labels for people. It widens the gap, it doesn’t close it.

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I was a normie once. I too fell for misinformation in the past. If it wasn’t for the freely available information on the internet, I wouldn’t be here today.

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Honestly some normies would help us talk about something different than US politics, linux and being trans femboys. Honestly, we’d have some diversity in content. I’d like that.

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I think it would make discussions about US politics even worse. But I agree with the rest. I personally would also like to have a more broad user base. That’d definitely spark more interesting discussions. Lemmy is a very weird echo chamber right now. It’s just very important that no one in the Fediverse starts to capitalize on them. That’d be the moment enshittification starts. And that will happen once the mainstream people come pouring in because greed will always corrupt the ones who have some form of power. Someone will take advantage of this.

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We could have separate instances for the normies and for the femboy linux users. And then, everybody can choose which instances to block/follow.

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Internet? You mean the WiFi /s

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No I mean the modem on my hard drive not the wifi.

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With community visibility, there is plenty of room to form these communities that regular people can’t access for those who want that.

I can imagine an instance with a whole collection of insider communities. In fact, it’s already happened.

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In time, the Fediverse will also be easily accessible. And where there are normies, you’ll find corporate enshittification.

No, because corporations cannot buy the Fediverse.

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Couldn’t they “convince” instance admins to include ads? Couldn’t they flood communities with influencers? Couldn’t they promote Lemmy apps that have ads?

You are severely underestimating the criminal energy and creativity of these corporations.

Edit: reddit turned to shit way before the platform itself was up for sale. No need to buy the platform, bots and influencers are enough.

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Couldn’t they “convince” instance admins to include ads?

Yes. One at a time. But the cannot “buy Lemmy” which is what a CEO would want to do.

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