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86 points

and this is why you should use third party clients/patches like revanced

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Ehh. I wouldn’t suggest someone go use any old patched client. Do your due diligence and be safe.

Hard to believe people down voted this. I’m just saying make sure you get stuff from official sources like https://ReVanced.app

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-177 points

No. This is why if you like a service, you pay for it.

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65 points

if google made youtube premium like $3/month no one would bat an eye and sub. but they’re approaching netflix prices and that’s just way to much. i rather support the creators directly than throwing money at google who will give the creators crumbs until they demonetize them because google is doing google things. also won’t solve the privacy problem that comes with using their native site/apps.

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21 points

I think part of the problem is that they’re hosting so much more content than Netflix. It really is crazy that it’s free to upload to YouTube to just store all your videos on there. Probably 99.9% of YouTube content does not get enough views to justify the cost of storing it.

All that being said, YouTube premium comes with a bunch of shit nobody wants so surely they could cut that stuff to lower the price (or tiered pricing for people who want it).

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11 points

In some places they are more expensive than Netflix…

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61 points

Does YouTube pay their content creators properly? No, they have to rely on external partnerships. Does YouTube help their creators solve issues with greedy companies making copyright claims on not their content? No, they close channels because of such claims and strip creators of income they deserve. Does YouTube keep their platform secure to protect its creators? No, hackers managed to get access to the biggest channels on the platform despite YouTube being aware of the issues for months. Does YouTube at least use their knowledge from spying its users to stop bots posting comments? No, bot comments are all over the place. And I could go like that for ages…

The fact is YouTube is a shitty platform and people use it because they have to not because they want to. Because they have a fucking monopoly! People are paying thousands of dollars directly to content creators through platforms like Patreon, because they like the content. But people are not willing to support financially the platform that openly don’t give a fuck about their users and creators (which are the only reason this platform exists) and care only about their shareholders. Because why would they pay to make the rich richer while content creators struggle to earn money for rent!

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46 points

Google has been shamelessly destroying all their projects the last few years in a desperate fit to make money. They’ve weakened ad blockers on chrome, they’ve altered the search algorithm so random BS is mixed in with regular to drive towards sponsored content, their starting to setup browser level DRM and creating un skipable ads. None of this is for anything more than greed and desperation. They no longer see anything other than money as the end goal and don’t care if their selling a shittier product at a higher price than no one was ever even willing to pay for. F*ck google.

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-19 points

YT Premium costs less than $4 for me and I also get YT Music. It sure beats paying $4 for only a music service.

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No. This is why if a service loses sight of its core value proposition, it dies.

If youtube is actually successful in killing adblocking on their service - which I suppose a server-side timer could actually do - then they will only succeed in killing their relevance, just like so many social media seem to be doing right now.

I pay for services like a debrid and VPN, because they provide me with the services I need. For very few dollars a month I can get 4K streaming from their servers 24/7. That is all hosting should cost. If the fediverse version of youtube, peertube, became mainstream then collectively people should have absolutely no problem maintaining those costs from the users’ side.

Once that happens and mainstream video streaming is part of the fediverse, I think the network effect that governs social media might snowball until eventualy centralised social media is a thing of the past.

Do not pay for youtube, whatever you do. Let them die.

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9 points

You think too much of the average person. This sort of thing might affect you, but it won’t affect your friend’s 8 year old brother or his parents who just want a convenient way to watch pewdiepie

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8 points

“Soon we will have a new web. One far younger and far more powerful.”

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-6 points

You do realize the average person watches YouTube on their TV or their phone, with ads? You are not the target audience for Google.

So I fully expect YouTube to kill adblocking at some point and they might lose what? 10% of users? Of which 5% either come back to watch ads or pay the subscription because all the content is on there?

I’m 100% pro adblocker, the internet is a mess without, but it’s stupid to think YouTube wouldn’t cut you off the moment you don’t provide any benefit to their service (For example despite adblocking you might give Superchat money to streamers, or join Streamer memberships).

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lol this post is nothing more than a tantrum from a leech of a service they’re too cheap to pay for and scrabbling for reasons other than said cheap-ness

you may get likes on the internet for this wholly selfish take but we all know it’s nothing more than that.

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26 points

Oh nooo, who will think of the big tech who continue to get record profits every year?

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-12 points

I want creators to get paid when I watch them but I also don’t want ads. YT Premium is affordable (it costs less than $4 a month for me) for me and I also get YT Music with it. I watch hundreds of hours worth of video from multiple creators so it’s a fair deal.

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25 points

Personally I don’t want to pay Google out of principle tbh, the creators I support can benefit from my Patreon donations and Nebula subscription

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-20 points

That’s way too expensive and I can’t afford it. YTP is less than $4 a month so at least the creators gets at least a few cents from my views, and I watch a lot of creators.

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-23 points

I find this take wierd. If you do not want to support Google, stop using services created by them.

The content creators can upload videos to multiple platforms if they want to

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Because somehow paying $4 a month is unreasonable for a service that I use for 2-4 hours every day.

Right.

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-6 points

I’m a premium user so I’m not affected (for now)

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-8 points

And that’s how things die due to no revenue. Running YouTube is expensive af and the more people who used things like revanced, the worse things will become for everyone else.

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19 points

I support the sentiment, but today everything is a service that wants your money, this resource is finite. And when it comes to YouTube, it’s not even about whether you like it or not: YouTube is a monopolist.

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19 points

But I hate the service, it’s the only service around though.

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7 points

There’s a reason why they are the only ones. It’s very hard to scale a platform to YouTube scale. Like insanely hard and very expensive. The only other players that could take over are Meta and maybe Microsoft. Not sure if they would be any better.

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-6 points

lol you hate the service so it makes it ok for you to steal? K good sirs, keep on pirating

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9 points

I’ll gladly pay for a service that doesn’t thrive on pushing propaganda down people’s throats to maximize watch time and that isn’t actively trying to make my user experience miserable by removing downvotes, forcing shorts and so on.

I’d rather pay someone to kick me in the nuts. Sounds like a better deal tbh.

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4 points

Good thing I don’t like youtube.

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-5 points

I meant that if you use YouTube a lot, it would be fair to pay for an ad-free experience.

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1 point

Like Cable Television, right?

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I use SponsorBlock.

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