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Nah but a whole food plant-based has been scientifically proven to help with all those issues.

https://www.cfp.ca/content/63/10/744?etoc

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All of them? Veganism will cure autism?

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Nah. Pesticides and pollution will make it more widespread.

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Mmmmmh yes, being super ableist in a post that’s calling our ableism

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Scanned through your link. It doesn’t mention most of them. It also almost immediately lumps vegetarian and low meat in with vegan. Lastly, it spends as much time talking about environmental concerns as health ones.

About all it says on the matter is that a healthy diet helps more than an unhealthy one. Vegans also tend to have a healthier diet. It’s perfectly possible to have a healthy diet, including meat, and gain the same benefits.

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You’re in denial as your second paragraph is straight up misinformation as you cannot be just as healthy when you’re continuing to eat meat as processed meat is a class 1 carcinogen and red meat is a class 2a carcinogen.

There is a significant amount of research done on the benefits of the whole foods plant-based diet.

Animal flesh will increase the amount of your cholesterol intake increasing your risk for heart disease as they’re also high in saturated fats.

Certain types of fish contain high amounts of mercury due industrial pollution with predator fish species having the highest amounts.

Not to mention all the possible food contaminantion.

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I’m not going to remove what you said but please be more considerate in the future. This conmunity has high scientific standards for medical advice (see rule 3) and an opinion piece in a dodgy medical journal written by a single doctor doesn’t cut it.

Show us a major review or a government guidleline. Otherwise, replace “is” by “I think”.

What you sent has as much quality as a bachelor students opinion piece. And fails to consider correlation may not be causation.

For example vegan people are richer on average (being vegan is expensive). Turns out rich people are thinner on average. So is being rich or being vegan what declines in chances of obsesity?

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None of those points actually back up your statement that it’s misinformation. No matter the diet, imbalances or excesses will be bad for your health.

As for health benefits, do they compare to an “average” diet, or an otherwise healthy one. E.g. a “Mediterranean diet”? It’s also worth noting that a vegan diet, without planning, will lead to deficiencies. Ultimately, our bodies evolved to run on a mostly plant based diet, with a small amount of meat supplementing it. It’s what allowed us to oversize our brains so much. If you choose to alter what you eat, that’s fine. I also agree that most people eat way too much meat. That doesn’t mean going to the other extreme is better.

As for carcinogens, we are constantly dealing with various types. Burnt bread is technically carcinogenic. Our bodies have evolved to deal with them. Too much, and you’ll obviously overload the repair systems and cause issues. The same can be said for a poor/deficient diet however.

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