Comment by Maggoty@lemmy.world on The entire Western media and political class when Iran launches its strike against Israel:

This morning I could hardly find a headline to confirm Israel invaded Lebanon. Everything was about how scary Iran is.

What the fucking fuckery fuck media? How is Iran’s response to Israel’s invasion more important than Israel invading? I shouldn’t have to dig for 20 minutes to confirm something like that.

to be clear, the iran government is basically oil backed terrorism and human rights abuses. Yeah fuck iran.

I wouldn’t trust a single thing iran says.

Quite different compared to staunch US ally Saudi Arabia.

have i said that i would trust a single thing that saudia arabia says? Ever?

I saw plenty of headlines about the invasion of Lebanon. It just happened first, so the newer headlines would be about the thing that just happened

No invasion from any media I saw.

Just an incursion

Read better media. And it’s not like the BBC is particularly progressive on this.

These things happened hours apart. And many of the stubs behind the Iran headlines made no mention of why they would fire missiles at Israel. After today I won’t be surprised when we start getting people in here who think Iran fired for no reason and Israel hasn’t invaded Lebanon. It was an absolute failure of news media.

I’m not defending the media by any stretch, just that both events got some coverage.

Yeah I’m just mad because they know the timing matters. They know the words they use matter. We’ve heard them talk about this exact kind of failing in the Iraq war and covering Trump. And now we’re right back there again, breathlessly repeating the administration and their ally. Calling it a “limited ground operation”. They know that first impression matters and there’s a whole group of people who now think Israel got rocketed for terrorist hunting.

It’s called moving the goalposts. You called out their Bs claim, so they just threw out another one.

Anyone can go and listen to npr up first. The title for yesterday includes “Israel escalates in Lebanon” and then today they point to Israel vowing repercussions for Iran. In the podcast itself, they talk about how this was almost certainly retaliation for the killing for the Hezbollah leader.

This whole idea that the whole of western media is ignoring what Israel is typical of the false Bs pushed by the op.

So it’s an “escalation” and retaliation for something else entirely.

You realize this fits the exact outline I’ve laid out? Anything to avoid pointing out Israel has invaded the sovereign territory of another country.

And no. I haven’t moved any goalposts.

You realize this fits the exact outline I’ve laid out?

Your main claims were the all of the headlines “about how scary Iran is” (the fact that it was a headline about Israel escalating and Israel vowing repercussions) and “many of the stubs behind the Iran headlines made no mention of why they would fire missiles at Israel” (and the short story in NPR was about why they were retaliating). It directly contradicts it, using one of the most popular and prominent US news organizations.

And no. I haven’t moved any goalposts.

Your original argument was that there were no headlines, which the other poster challenged. . .you then went not to say that the stories didn’t give information about why they retaliated. It’s absolutely a clear case of moving the goal posts.

Attempting to gaslighting me won’t work, sorry. We’ve had too many interactions before for me not to be on the lookout for disingenuous positions.

Hey, how dare you oppose my blatant false pretense with facts that are verifiable!

-Ozma before he downvoted you

Sounds like something an antisemite would say! Why do you hate jews instead of the barbarian brown people, antisemite?

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