You are viewing a single thread.
View all comments View context

Stopping wars is actually starting wars, I am very smart

permalink
report
parent
reply
11 points

Your understanding of the world is that of a naive eight year old. Or maybe a Brit or Frenchman in 1938. Hard to tell..

Or maybe you’re intentionally playing with words. In which case let me point out that the West didn’t start the war. Russia did. They had a whole “special military operation” about it.

Fucking peaceniks, greatest Russian allies out there. Absolutely disgusting mentality.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

Okay, they did, I agree. Now, how does that help us end the war?

permalink
report
parent
reply
9 points

Is ending the war in Ukraine as fast as possible (i.e. by handing Russia control over it) a desirable outcome when we KNOW due to multiple historical precedents, public declarations, and even stated intent from Putin himself, that Russia will immediately move to invade other countries like Belarus, Kazakhstan, Moldavia, Georgia, etc?
Of course it fucking isn’t. Russia backing the fuck down and learning to respect national sovereignty is the entire point of this war.

Also, ignoring the geopolitics (which is a stupid enough sentence by itself…), who the fuck are you to tell the Ukrainians what they should or should not be doing? They want to fight Russia, they don’t want sheltered western bois telling them to surrender to the oppressor who will genocide them, again.

Your line of thinking is wrong. It’s patronizing, it’s belittling, it’s cowardly, it’s unproductive, and it’s DANGEROUS. It’s how we got the Munich treaty, the Vichy Regime, and Collaboration. So we fight Imperialism, wherever we see it. We fight the Nazis when they invade our country, we dunk on the US when they commit imperialism in the ME, and we militarily enable our allies to drive Russia out of their sovereign territory.

permalink
report
parent
reply
10 points

Where did I claim to be smart? I am merely pointing out that, if you give those who start wars what they want, they have an incentive to go and start more of them.

permalink
report
parent
reply
10 points
*

Considering your takes, I certainly didn’t assume you were smart, although I don’t think intelligence is a qualitative measurement.

In terms of wars, you do realize that wars are started for different reasons, right? The material realities that start wars differ vastly from war to war. Also, if the USA is any example, losing a war does not do anything to stop a country from starting another one.

permalink
report
parent
reply