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26 points

First yes, second no.

The dumber the device the happier the user.

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Apple TV doesn’t try to do much other than being a very technically capable passthrough. You get pretty much every streaming service, multiple Plex clients etc. And no ads.

My 1st Gen ATV4K is 7 years old now and was buttery smooth until last tvOS update, now it’s only slightly smoother than most high end TVs. That’s quite a good run.

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You mean the same Apple that was found guilty to artificially slowing older devices with software updates?

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I always found it tough to get upset with them much for that one. They had to deal with battery aging because they were the ones to support their devices long enough for it to matter. Plus I had a Nexus 6P at the time, and when its battery started getting weak the damn phone would just shut off while at 30% or whatever.

Them sneaking it in was obviously bad though.

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Yes. Have you ever used Apple TV? This thing is leaps and bounds ahead everything of else, even Shield in terms of pure performance.

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Why do I doubt this.

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Why do I doubt this.

Because you hate Apple (for likely justifiable reasons) and thus at a basic level of intuition assume everything Apple does is bad.

But while Apple certainly isn’t good (there is no “good” when it comes to the way corporations monetize their customers), Apple is significantly better in some areas than their competitors (while being worse in others). iPhones are much better than Pixels for privacy, for example.

The Apple TV is a product that needs to do very specific things: show media, and run a few types of apps. This isn’t very computationally heavy. My smart TVs were always great until future updates added advertisements and features that slowed them down. The Apple TV doesn’t get bogged down by shitty advertisements.

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Agree, of all the companies out there, Apple isn’t the one I entrust with my data. Pretty happy with my Nvidia Shield instead, the OS is open enough to allow monitoring all telemetry, and I’m happy to say that after switching everything off that Android enabled by default, nothing really gets out there. I’ve sniffed connections on my router as well, and it only really connects to where it should.

Edit: Aww look, I’ve triggered the fanboys ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Apple TV 4K:

  • no ads on homescreen
  • updated near annually, last hw refresh 2023
  • HDMI 2.1
  • WiFi 6 / gigabit Ethernet
  • 128GB internal storage
  • $149 retail price ($129 for 64GB model that loses Ethernet for WiFi only)

Nvidia Shield Pro:

  • ads on homescreen via google tv
  • last hardware refresh 2019 (5 years)
  • HDMI 2.0b
  • WiFi 5 / gigabit Ethernet
  • 16GB internal storage (USB 3 port for ext hard drive if desired)
  • $199 retail price

Both support 4K, Dolby vision, atmos, etc. Apple’s dynamic frame rate switching actually works whereas NViDIA’s has bugs and been in beta hell for years.

For your average person without very specific needs like running a Plex server off the same hardware the Apple TV4K is as or more private than the shield at a cheaper price and under active development.

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I wouldn’t really compare the pro version, when the regular one works better and has extendable storage via SD card and comes at $149 retail, with offers as low as $129 around.

Annual hardware revisions are nice and all, but in my understanding they don’t actually improve what the end user get to experience.

The main advantage I see in the shield is the ability to sideload apps, such as SmartTube for adfree youtube with integrated sponsorblock, ftp server, torrent client etc., and not least use VLC as a media player. Plus you can customize the launcher or replace it as a whole to tailor the UI to your exact needs.

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