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Excuse me sir may I borrow a tomato seed? I’ll give you one back in a few months, promise!

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Let’s say we live in a world where anyone is allowed to copy anything without issue or cost. Patents are now meaningless because people can copy an invention and make their own version, so there’s no incentive for anyone do the entrepreneur thing or invent new devices. There’s no reason for musicians to record anything other than maybe to drum up interest in their tours. No reason for digital artists to put things online. No writer is going to allow their work to be published as an ebook. Etc.

The costs to make things don’t change and the profit targets don’t change, so the people who do this are just causing higher prices for the prior who don’t, in exactly the same way as stores raise their prices to cover the costs of shoplifting.

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Holy assumptions, batman!

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What assumptions do you disagree with?

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  1. You baselessly assume patents are the same as allowing copying content for personal use
  2. If money is the only reason for someone to make content, then we are better off without it
  3. If a company changes prices and loses customers, it is entirely their problem, not the customers’. It’s the definition of free market
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  1. I didn’t make any such assumption, I’m just saying if anyone can copy anything then copyrights and patents are meaningless. It follows from my hypothetical.
  2. The vast, vast majority of all content is made for financial gain. How many movies do you think would get made if people couldn’t get paid for it. There’s a lot of costs to just break even considering location rentals, shooting permits, craft and food costs, etc. All the people involved do it to make a living. How much content would there be if it was only donated time and materials?
  3. I have two big problems with this. For one, I didn’t say they were losing customers, I said the paying customers are subsidizing the costs of the thefts. Secondly, how can you possibly blame a store for raising prices to cover the costs of thefts? Should they just operate at a loss? How do they pay their employees?

Again, lots of rationalizations for taking stuff without paying. Can I ask you what you do for a living and if you think whatever product or service it is should be provided by you for free?

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Not a good analogy, you are still depriving them of a seed for a period of time. Something more accurate would be “Excuse me sir, may I take pictures of your successful tomato grow op so I can do the same thing at home in my own grow to feed my family.”

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6 points

Sounds like you need a seed bank.

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4 points

PepsiCo is already on it back in 2019 Here

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Yeah but in this case you still keep your seed, but now I also have that seed… MAGIC!

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