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I’d settle for getting rid of the electoral college at this point. We could’ve had at least 4 years of Al Gore setting us on the right path to avoiding the worst of climate change yet here we are having to put up with a potentially third popular vote upset in recent history.

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Ranked choice is more plausible than removing the EC. Ranked choice already exists in some places and the Dems have a proposal (but are lacking the votes) to implement it for Congress.

Removing the EC would require a constitutional amendment so 3/4 for the House and Senate and ratified by 3/4 of the states. Or maybe it’s 2/3 for some of those, but either way it needs bipartisan support and why would the GOP remove a system that got their guy elected twice this century?

There is some kind of interstate compact thing to get around it, but making a huge change to elections via sneaky shenanigans won’t go over well at a time when a lot of doubts about election integrity have been widely promoted. Wrongly promoted, but still, doing sneaky things about elections is a real no-go right now.

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Why is it so common to blame the third party vote for democrats losing in 2016? It sounds like if the democrats would take an anti-war stance like the green party does, they would have won most of those votes too?

Seems more appropriate to expect the party to reflect the population rather than the other way around.

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It’s the Schrodinger’s Tankies. Simultaneously so insignificant as a voting block that it’s a waste of time to appeal to them, and so influential that it’s exclusively their fault when the dems lose.

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Yeah. This is why some Democrats get called Blue MAGA and I don’t think they get it.

They treat lefties like the same kinda scapegoat the Republicans treat anyone not white. It’s an easy “other” group that can be considered outside the main group and fighting them is “the good moral duty of the Democratic Party.”

I sometimes wonder if that division and push for the center-left to be apathetic towards the further left is part of the Russian Psy-op that they are so afraid of cause that’s the only reason I can think of a party like this ignoring their youngest, poorest, or most emotional bases, that courting on the right makes them win.

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I do get the example but it’s definitely hard to quantify how many votes would be lost on the other end by appealing further to the left.

Centrists make up the majority of the voting block, which is why we’re in the situation we are now where everyone is dancing around this fickle middle group. And yet politics has also somehow never felt so polarized in my adult life, go figure.

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Wasn’t Green Party seen sitting at a table with Putin?

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Yes she was! Its usually the prime piece of evidence people put up to prove that Jill Stein is working for Putin.

I think its a bit conspiracy adjacent myself. If there was more concrete proof, I’d accept the picture as supporting evidence but its not great on its own.

Feel free to disagree though.

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Of course they were, but only in the last 60 days before the election.

The green party forgot about the green party right up until it became useful for the Cheeto fuhrer’s campaign.

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4 points

Al gore won that election

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Why not both?

(Oh yeah, the fundamentally corrupt and undemocratic system concocted by literal slave masters.)

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