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And there it is, you practically just asked me to either go vegan or stop giving a shit about animal rights. Because what I am is incompatible with your understanding of animal rights.

For all practical purposes, I don’t give that much of a shit. So I’m basically slotting almost entirely into the mould you expect me to; I’m not in the streets shouting or in government buildings appealing that my minority concern should be considered for influencing regulation.

I’m instead on the internet talking about my support for it, and why vegans chastising insufficiently committed support for it has reduced support for it … with vegans actively chastising my insufficiently committed support for it.

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I don’t care what you do, I am talking about the hypocrisy in your statements.

You did it again here, both saying you don’t give a shit but also are committed to supporting animal rights.

You started this by blaming vegans for reducing interest in animal rights, surely a projection of how you feel onto society. Thats your excuse for not learning more about veganism or trying it out. You already know enough right?

Go ahead and explain how you sending money to groups trying to convince slaughterhouses to use humane methods is helping?

What does help is that veganism is simply about reducing harm, and that it tends to have benefits for personal health, environment, and for animals.

But you can stick with your “if only we murdered them more politely things would be fine” line and see how much that helps.

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Factory farms won’t get better until demand reduces.

Got any great ideas to make factory farms more humane that won’t slow down production of meat? Is the demand going up or down over time?

Of course the answer can’t be reducing meat consumption in general, right? Dont have to be vegan to eat less meat do you now?

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