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There were smokers trying to ban cigarettes or regulate cigarettes?

What regulations were active smokers pushing for that would affect their ability to continue smoking?

I know there were victims of misinformation who didnt know there would be consequences, but they aren’t smokers anymore by the time they are in front of congress talking through a voice box.

Maybe you can talk me through an example.

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but they aren’t smokers anymore by the time they are in front of congress talking through a voice box.

i would bet that if you lose your larynx, there isn’t much reason to give up smoking. you already basically got the worst deal. this is all hypothetical and guesswork anyway. maybe you find it unbelievable, but i don’t (of course this should feel familiar). it makes me uncomfortable to speculate this much, and i have even less interest in tracking down the specific facts about tobacco than i do in becoming vegan (take that how you will).

it’s clear that regulation has been able to preceed a decline in use, even against powerful and profitable industries. it’s not clear that a only partially-concerned (since veganism seeks to exclude all exploitation, not limited to diet) ideological boycott has any impact at all.

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If popular opinion is what leads to regulation, then how is it best to go about changing public opinion so more and more people are for regulating the meat and dairy industries?

There are vegan activists who expose things about those industries that aren’t public knowledge, and that seems to move public opinion to a degree, at least locally/regionally.

Right now regulating meat and dairy is a deeply unpopular opinion no matter which party you look at, at least in the US.

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