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Jfc, they’re USA citizens. Ffs.

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Are they? Are they really? Puerto Rico still isn’t allowed to be it’s own state

Downvoters somehow missing the point where Puerto Ricans are basically treated as second class citizens because of where they live. Puerto Rico should be it’s own state already

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They are still U S. citizens, just not citizens of any state. Same thing can happen if you are born in DC or a military base not in a state.

American Samoans are the ones that really get screwed. They are just U S. nationals. All the responsibilities of citizens (including the draft when it exists) but not all of the benefits.

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It was kind of my point that they were treated as second class citizens, like Samoans, just because of where they were born. Puerto Rico should be it’s own state already

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What a weird place this instance is.
The explanation for those not in the know.

Puerto Ricans are USA citizens they can vote for president but They can not vote on the president from Puerto Rico. They are natural born US citizens can’t vote for president in the place of their birth. This is because of many reasons.

So they have to move and become residents of not Puerto Rico, but a different state, to vote for president.

So they do not have the same rights as other US citizens because of where they live. This is unique in the united states.

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I mean, it’s not because they’re Puerto Rican, it’s because they live in Puerto Rico. Someone from Iowa who moved to Puerto Rico would also not get a vote.
This is because our system allocates votes to land, not people.
US citizens don’t get to vote for president. They get to vote for who their place of residence votes for.

Up until the 60s, people in DC also didn’t get a vote, because by default only states get a vote, and it’s explicitly not a state.

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What a weird place this instance is.

implying that there are instances that aren’t like this

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Puerto Rican statehood is more complicated than that. Becoming a state is a contentious issue even amongst Puerto Ricans.

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Is it?

I had friends there for a long time, they all basically either wanted the US out or had it be a US state, anything but this in between nothing that they’re in now

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This was like 4th grade shit for me my man.

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Are they? Are they really?

Yes they really are. They are U.S. citizens who are disenfranchised based on location.

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Yeah, maybe it wasn’t entirely clear there but I was trying to say that they were treated as second class citizens that can pay taxes but can’t vote becit of where they live

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