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If anything, lefties shouldnā€™t be a single issue voter at all. They should be picking someone who might move toward that direction and have the chance to win, not abstaining.

As the famous word goes: Evil triumph when good men do nothing. You canā€™t abstain or do protest vote and expect anything to change under Trump, that single issue you hold so important will get worst, or even impossible.

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Jay Shapiro explains this well in a video:

GENOCIDE and the Single Issue Voter

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TL:DW?

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In this video, I challenge the dismissive label of ā€˜single-issue votingā€™. I break down how a focus on an issue like genocide reveals deeper political and moral stakes, rejecting the idea that elections are merely a choice between the ā€˜lesser of two evils,ā€™ and offering my reasoningā€”and hopeā€”for refusing to play the game.

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Well this ā€œsingle issueā€ of land stealing, white supremacist subjugation of a people on their native land, ethnic cleansing and genocide, has only gotten worse with every election.

If we look at AIPAC they arent powerful because they influence who wins. They are powerful because they onfluence who looses.

That is why being pro genocide remains a staple of both parties policies. The only way to change that, is to punish the side that claims to not be pro genocide generally, so it has to become against genocide specifically.

And we had one year of trying to do that before the election, where people here and in othernplace vigorously defended being pro genocide, as challenging that before the election would be bad for the election.

We saw with Biden stepping down that challenging the dementia candidate was actually beneficial for the Democrats election chances, despite the same denial and backlash over pointing out Bidens failing mental capacities.

Now i am sure that these sentiments of immediately attacking people who wanted the Democrats to become a non genocide party when it was still possible to achieve that for the election, were stirred by AIPAC and other establishment actors, who would rather have Trump win than end genocide or get to meaningful progressive politics like proper healthcare and workers rights.

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Okay, sure, but letā€™s say Trump win and you successfully punish Democrats, the results areā€¦you also punished abortion right, people of colour, the lgbtq community, american with middle-eastern origin, worsening the immigrant deportation, and lastly, eliminating the chance of palestine-israel ceasefire and basically confirming the annexation of Gaza and West Bank. Isnā€™t that the thing you most concerned with? And now the blood is on your hands too. That doesnā€™t sounds like left-wing thinking to me at all.

I leave out a lot of thing, itā€™s really up to you to figure out what you will lose. Iā€™m not even from US and another Trump term will undoubtedly affect the world in one way or another.

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Most of what you say is exactly correct. The thing is, you have drawn a little outline of a box around this one situation, and allowed its glow to obscure all else outside the line.

Make the box bigger. Let the other issues that still count and effect people be inside the box.

Trans people need you to vote Harris, because theyā€™ll be in extermination camps under Trump. Women in Mississippi whose pregnancies are going to tragically go bad next year need you to save their lives by voting Harris, because Trump will put the final nail in the coffin on abortion. Plenty of people will go homeless under Trump who would have hung on with higher wages and monopoly busting under Harris.

Being a single issue voter is a luxury that assumes everything else is basically solid, so we can press the one issue extra hard and let the rest of the garden tend itself a bit.

We are in the exact opposite of that situation in the 2024 presidential election. Dont confuse the shittiness of the whole situation with relatively much much better choice of Harris over Trump.

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So women needlessly dying of miscarriages and trans people getting locked up in camps is fine so long as the democrats are punished.

Mass deportations with sketchy legal grounds are also fine because the democrats will totally learn their lesson this time.

Wake the hell up. Youā€™re only punishing innocent americans. The democrats will be FINE if trump wins.

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Ho Chi Minh knew all about Americaā€™s long history of genocide and slavery.

When the time came to work with the American OSS to fight the Japanese he helped the Americans.

Any questions?

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Yeah one question, what did America do to Vietnam after that?

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Canā€™t believe I missed you when I blocked all your little friends.

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Why do people feel the need to publicly announce blocks?

Block me as well. Do not forget the blocking user ceremonial reply to my comment!

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