Lemdro.id

-7 points

14 days ago

I don’t believe in the ideology of lesser evilism. The refusal to hold politicians to any sort of standard whatsoever is a part of why we’re in this situation in the first place.

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Lauchs@lemmy.worldOP

1 point

14 days ago

I don’t believe in the ideology of lesser evilism

That’s a very easy view to hold when you aren’t one of the Palestinians who will die because of people like you making the same choice.

Small comfort to the people whom you pretend to care about.

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-5 points

14 days ago

Do you think the Palestinians in Gaza believe in applying lesser-evilism to the US election? I think it’s the opposite, it’s a very easy view to hold when the people dying under the lesser evil are kept safely out of sight and out of mind. It’s much harder to cradle a dead child in your arms and say, “Well, it could be worse.”

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Lauchs@lemmy.worldOP

0 points

14 days ago

I imagine they’d like fewer bombs as opposed to more bombs, yes.

The best would be zero bombs but nothing you are doing is getting them anywhere closer to that.

But you are, through your choice, helping there be more bombs and more dead.

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-2 points

14 days ago

Gazans do not support the people whose bombs are dropping on them right now, no.

I am not helping there be more bombs and more dead.

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Lauchs@lemmy.worldOP

2 points

14 days ago

I enjoy your confidence to speak on behalf of Gazans, especially in a “more bombs on them is fine!” context.

If there are two options, one leading to fewer dead Palestineans and one leading to more, not helping get us to fewer is an immoral choice, which you are making. That’s exactly what the evil prevailing quote is about.

I can’t make this any more simple for you. You can choose to disregard the reality and consequences of your choices but you should at least have the decency to admit them.

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Rhoeri@lemmy.world

-1 points

14 days ago

No matter what you say, or how well you say it… they will either make up some bullshit reductive nonsense, or they’ll side-step the entire point as if you never made it.

They’re here in bad faith. They’re a troll. This is evident in their refusal to even acknowledge the facts being laid out before them.

When one refutes common sense, there’s no longer a reason to respect their point of view.

Just bag on them and move on.

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-3 points

14 days ago

Only if you ascribe to the ideology of lesser evilism, which is a ridiculous ideology.

Suppose someone has rounded up 10 people, and they say, “I’ll kill all of these people, unless you kill one of them for me.” Is it moral to do that? How about if you do it and he says, “You work for me now, go round up 10 more people for me so I can do this again, or else I’ll kill 20.” Still moral?

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-2 points

14 days ago

Sitting on your hands isn’t as effective as you think it is bud. Hate to break it to you.

But for funzies…. How about you go ahead and find a moment in history where doing nothing at all created the best outcome for anyone or anything.

EDIT: two days later and nothing as I expected.

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