No matter what you say, or how well you say it… they will either make up some bullshit reductive nonsense, or they’ll side-step the entire point as if you never made it.

They’re here in bad faith. They’re a troll. This is evident in their refusal to even acknowledge the facts being laid out before them.

When one refutes common sense, there’s no longer a reason to respect their point of view.

Just bag on them and move on.

Only if you ascribe to the ideology of lesser evilism, which is a ridiculous ideology.

Suppose someone has rounded up 10 people, and they say, “I’ll kill all of these people, unless you kill one of them for me.” Is it moral to do that? How about if you do it and he says, “You work for me now, go round up 10 more people for me so I can do this again, or else I’ll kill 20.” Still moral?