Lemdro.id

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14 days ago

I think I see where this is headed.

Am I right to say that you view casting a vote as an endorsement of a candidate/party (like MAGA does), rather than as a chess move (like Liberals do)?

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OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml

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14 days ago

Obvious, a vote is an endorsement, yes. Whether MAGA does or Liberals don’t, I don’t know anything about that and don’t particularly care.

But even if you want to treat it as a chess move, it’s a bad one. It’s tactically wrong as well as ethically.

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14 days ago

Obvious, a vote is an endorsement, yes.

Nope, that’s merely your opinion.

It’s tactically wrong

False.

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OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml

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14 days ago

False.

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14 days ago

Then prove that voting is objectively and endorsement of a candidate/party. That’s your claim.

For the second, you already agreed previously that it is tactically the best move.

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OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml

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14 days ago

Then prove that voting is objectively and endorsement of a candidate/party. That’s your claim.

That’s just definitionally what those words mean. To say “This candidate is the best choice, I’m voting for them and others should to” is an endorsement, and to say “I endorse this candidate” means, “This candidate is the best choice, I’m voting for them and others should too.” I suppose you could argue they’re technically different if you lie about how you’re voting or don’t tell anyone about it.

For the second, you already agreed previously that it is tactically the best move.

Blatant lie. I have consistently disagreed with that at every single point of this conversation.

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14 days ago

That’s just definitionally what those words mean. To say “This candidate is the best choice, I’m voting for them and others should to” is an endorsement, and to say “I endorse this candidate” means, “This candidate is the best choice, I’m voting for them and others should too.”

Under FPTP, one can absolutely use their vote to denounce a candidate and vote against them taking office. Especially if that vote has a chance of actually pushing the needle far enough to make that happen.

Blatant lie. I have consistently disagreed with that at every single point of this conversation.

Blatant lie.

You agreed that:

Kamala or Trump will be elected president
Trump losing would be better overall in the short term
Trump losing would be better overall in the long term

Do you need me to link that for you?

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