Lemdro.id

18 points

1 month ago

Thing is you can actually be radical. In a healthy democracy you need some small fringes to exert pressure, e.g. civil right activist groups and so on so that the government isn’t able to just completely ignore portions of the population.

But to be effective as an activist you have to know when to put on pressure and when to unite. Malcolm X or Fred Hampton didn’t go vote for David Duke just because MLK was a pacifist.

This was the wrong time to pressure because as always activists dramatically misread the levels of actual support for their cause and dramatically underestimate how much support the general populace gives the opposition.

Most people don’t even agree on the very basic facts of reality or that such a thing can even exist, how tf are you gonna expect to convince them of anything? What you gonna write some long post on it? Good luck - they cannot read.

Humanity is just a dogshit species. To even agree that we shouldn’t stab ourselves in our proverbial balls with a proverbial milwaukee power drill - it takes like generations and most people are always for the status quo and the worst possible version of everything is the default we have to work from and with, it’s just a cruel joke and it would be more existentially comforting if progress was outright impossible.

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jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com

-4 points

1 month ago

It was absolutely the correct time to pressure. Harris/dnc/biden miscalculated.

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8 points

1 month ago

Huh? You really think that if they caved on Palestine they would’ve won? Most Americans support the guy who wants to impose Muslim travel bans

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TokenBoomer@lemmy.world

0 points

1 month ago

The numbers don’t lie.

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1 point

1 month ago

The Muslim vote in the end stayed literally the same, so did the Jewish vote. Most Americans prolly haven’t even heard of all this shit lol

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jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com

-1 points

1 month ago

Imagine thinking someone needs to cave on not being genocidal. Jesus fucking christ.

students were arrested under their watch, a key demographic for them in a tight race. Students are often motivated canvassers. Their response to the outcry? There must be order. Get bent biden/harris.
they lost 25 electoral points in two fucking swing states directly related to this. In literal numbers codified in the outcome.
they completely fucking ignored the economic issues caused by corporate greed. Fun fact kellogs is charging over 100% more for fucking corn flakes than the store brand. CORN FLAKES.

Most Americans support the guy who wants to impose Muslim travel bans.

Sigh. You didnt do well in math did you? Tell me where did the 20 million votes for biden last time go? Trumps numbers are unchanged. Oh right, they didnt show up. 🤔

Never mind the fucking fact most adults dont vote. So no most Americans dont support trump. They just dont think either party is worth their emotional energy. Good job democrats! 🤔

And token handle the rest of your nonsense with the polling numbers.

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-1 points

1 month ago

students were arrested under their watch, a key demographic for them in a tight race. Students are often motivated canvassers. Their response to the outcry? There must be order. Get bent biden/harris.

Yes and most people support that. They see you as more unhinged than the anti-police protestors and think Trump must be onto something with demolishing the DoE if the nation students are protesting for who they see as Islamist terrorists.

they lost 25 electoral points in two fucking swing states directly related to this. In literal numbers codified in the outcome.

Source?

they completely fucking ignored the economic issues caused by corporate greed

Yeah that’s socialism. They already lost the Latino vote by being too socialist. The electorate wants tax breaks for Kelogg’s CEO.

Sigh. You didnt do well in math did you? Tell me where did the 20 million votes for biden last time go?

Some of them probably to Trump.

Trumps numbers are unchanged.

Are you an idiot? You’re implying that these are the exact same people just because the numbers are roughly the same?

Biden convinced a lot of swing voters due to COVID.

Never mind the fucking fact most adults dont vote.

Source?

And token handle the rest of your nonsense with the polling numbers.

Token handle? Like JRR Tolkien? Did you have a stroke?

The vote count was roughly the same. Many dem voter swinged to Trump because they want a far-right ethnostate ruled by thugs and criminals.

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jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com

0 points

1 month ago

source

Please see yourself to any election results site for Wisconsin and Michigan, look at the results differential, look at the 3rd party votes, then go back the the primaries and look at the uncommited numbers from the primary.

Source? (Most dont vote)

See yourself to any american census page, find the adult population numbers, then look at the gross voters for this election. Do some basic math and you’ll end up with 25-30% of the voting population voted.

Are you an idiot?

Possibly but you most definitely are. You dont know basic well known facts about demographics of Michigan and Wisconsin, you ask for sources for literally common knowledge facts that are both widely reported and easily confirmed.

And no i didnt claim they were the exact same people you twit. I was pointing out he had relatively similar levels of total support in fucking aggregate. ~72mill.

Biden convinced a lot of swing voters due to COVID.

No, 20 million voters didnt show up this cycle because harris brought nothing to the tablento motivate them. In fact she mainly brought dismotivation via a genocide and lack of economic policies.

Token handle? Like JRR Tolkien? Did you have a stroke?

No, its the other person who responded to your absolutely trash of a post with a link to some polls.

Okay we’re done here. Nothing productive will be had with furthering a conversation with someone as uninformed, and in lacking basic reasoning skills as yourself.

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1 point

1 month ago

If these are so easy to verify you’d post them here yourself and own me with facts and logic like I’d deserve rather than resort to insults.

As it stands, I’m not even sure what primaries you’re referencing as there was no democratic primary this year. You sound like chatgpt spewing things that make sense at first glance but have little to do with reality. Either way, blocked.

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