Lemdro.id

1 point

24 days ago

Women who are now trans men weren’t always trans men, were they? Maybe they thought of themselves as women for a long time before changing their mind.

What a bizarre argument to have in a thread showcasing your lack of understanding for the kind of things men actually care about and politics in general.

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Flying Squid@lemmy.world

1 point

24 days ago

Yep. You’re a TERF.

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1 point

24 days ago

You win. Men have lots of exclusively male problems because, uhh (checks notes), I refused to play your Shibboleth game about trans people.

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Flying Squid@lemmy.world

1 point

24 days ago

Don’t turn this around on me. You said something that is some bigoted TERF shit about trans people:

Women who are now trans men weren’t always trans men, were they? Maybe they thought of themselves as women for a long time before changing their mind.

Would you say this about gay men and women too? I doubt it.

You’ve made it very clear you don’t think trans men are men, so I’m not sure why you’re avoiding it now.

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1 point

24 days ago

I wouldn’t say that about sexual orientation because unlike gender, sexual orientation can’t be changed, as far as I know.

Philosophically there are two schools of thought. Either gender is arbitrary (1), or gender is not arbitrary (2). If the former, then people’s gender is entirely determined by their preferences, and it can change. If the latter, then there are factors outside of one’s preferences that determine their gender, which cannot change based on personal reflection.

Most people believe that gender can change (position 1). Ergo, my phrasing. Trans men are men. (And gender can change based on your preferences). I’ll freely admit I phrased my reply in a way intended to confuse and annoy you.

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1 point

24 days ago

A minute ago you were defending men’s rights. Now you want to have a philosophical discussion about the nature of gender? I’m happy to have that conversation, and I doubt we ultimately disagree, but why? What possible bearing does it have on our disagreement over whether “nobody cares about men’s issues?” When in fact as far as I can tell our entire society is organized to help young men succeed.

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Flying Squid@lemmy.world

1 point

24 days ago

You can keep lying about what I was saying, but the fact that you can’t say the simple words, “trans men are men,” has laid your bigotry out for all to see.

And lying about what I was saying will not get me to deviate from said bigotry. Not when there are trans people I care about.

Trans men are men.

Trans women are women.

No amount of lying or queerphobia on your part changes those things.

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24 days ago

No offense but you’ve lost track of this conversation, and I don’t like playing word games. I feel like you’re pivoting to trans rights (???) despite the fact that we almost certainly agree.

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