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It’s hard to feel sorry for anyone who fell for a very obvious art grift. Even harder to be sorry for those caught grifting.

Even a cursory understanding of value would have told these people that pretty looking receipts are a piss poor investment, but no, they were convinced that NFT’s (a tech they obviously knew nothing about) held intrinsic value despite having nothing of value backing them.

Everyone caught up in the NFT art grift did so because they thought they could make a quick buck being ahead of the wave of the next big pump and dump like crypto and got fucked by their hubris. The grifter’s meanwhile were out here selling them graffiti’d up CVS receipts and saying they were worth the Mona Lisa.

The result? A perfectly valid and valuable technology has been completely disregarded by the public because 90% of people were too stupid to think before they bought into a tech they didn’t understand and they all lost money to grifters. Worlds most widespread art grift and everyone was played a fool, and a valuable tech has been discredited, misunderstood, and shunned.

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The result? A perfectly valid and valuable technology has been completely disregarded by the public

No. Stop. If blockchain, nfts, etc. had actual merit over what we already have rn, they would be used everywhere. But ever since the inception of the og blockchain, they do not. Because there is not a single actual use case of them that isn’t already done (and done better) by other tech.

So stop this “oh it was good, just misunderstood” nonsense. It was never good, and never will be.

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Is your only argument “wah, wah, wah, no!” because it’s not very convincing.

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46 points

A perfectly valid and valuable technology has been completely disregarded by the public

Damn, you were so close! Just expand what you said about NFTs to the whole crypto bullshit and you got it.

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There is value in a fully distributed append-only database system that can run on nodes that don’t trust each other. We just haven’t found any valid use of it outside crypto yet.

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If there’s no valid use how do you derive value? It’s old tech at this point and still looking for a problem to solve.

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There is value in a fully distributed append-only database system that can run on nodes that don’t trust each other. We just haven’t found any valid use of it outside crypto yet.

FTFY

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The one example I’ve heard that makes sense are NFTs to represent a purchase of digital games. This then allows the selling of digital keys second hand.

Other than that it all sounds like a scam.

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There’s no point in using NFT for that.

What assets are games going to allow you to import? Just anything?

Or only from authorized issuers (like the original game dev and authorized artists)? If so then you have no real place for NFT, you already have Steam marketplace and equivalent where the game dev sets up or integrates with an online marketplace.

Want transparency in the marketplace? Use transparency logs, not blockchains.

If you’re allowing literally any NFT then this is no different from allowing people to import arbitrary assets, with the sole difference that some have a digital receipt attached.

Blockchains are really only useful for certain coordination problems among mutually untrusting parties who can’t find a common trusted 3rd party. For most game devs that trusted 3rd party is Steam marketplace. It’s really only if you want to share assets in both directions between specific games from specific other developers AND want to make them exclusive / player owned AND don’t trust marketplaces like Steam, that it MIGHT be relevant to investigate if a blockchain solution fits.

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That is already possible without the use of NFTs, and much more efficient and secure.

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38 points

you dont need useless nft tech for that to be possible

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NFTs do have value in narrow use cases. For instance Domain names are NFTs and incredibly important to the way humans interact with the internet.

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Lmao, have you ever a bought a domain name. Its not an NFT, lmao you don’t even own one permanently after buying u. You basically license one from a registrar and that expires after a set interval. There’s no NFTs involved.

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Except that they’re not. NFTs take something that exists - like domain names - and injects unnecessary Blockchain bs. What added value does a Blockchain bring?

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Except they aren’t because they are just managed by a bunch of central agencies.

Not everything that’s digital and where the rights to it can be sold is an NFT.

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Edit: I may have misunderstood and the person I’m replying to agreed with my assertation that the tech has been disregarded and that it expands to crypto as well. I expected that assumption was obvious and didn’t need to be stated directly and thought the poster was being disingenuous. Leaving my comment up for posterity.

Don’t conflate your ignorance with other people’s knowledge, go develop a better understanding of the tech rather than assuming it has no value because you’re too ignorant to learn about it.

Even crypto has a place, doesn’t mean it’s being used correctly by the majority of people.

I equate the public engaging in crypto and NFT’s to tribal folks who accidentally pick up a discarded radioactive canister, what they have is valuable in the right hands, dangerous to themselves.

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Your original comment addressed exactly what I meant: not NFTs are the ponzi scheme but all crypto tokens are.

Nothing “perfectly valid and valuable” about blockchain - there are zero legit use cases that can’t be far more efficiently solved by conventional database tech (yes, also proof of stakes).

The reason is simple: the basis for the whole thing is trustlessness which does not exist - even in the crypto token world. You need trust to entry and to use it and I prefer a lawyer/notary over trusting some dev not putting bugs into my “smart” contract. I don’t trust the notary because of their fancy diploma either but because there’s a state that forces him to do right or lose his license/end up in prison. Nothing like that in your blockchain “trustless” environment.

Why do you think blockchain tech is as old as Android and has produced nothing but carbon dioxide and tears from “I’m gonna get rich quick” morons?

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6 points

Soooo close!

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