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Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez addressed Trump’s election win, urging Democrats to move past infighting and post-election rancor to focus on preparing for potential impacts of his presidency, such as tariffs, mass deportations, and censorship.

She criticized some Democrats for blaming the loss on “identity politics,” despite Trump’s campaign centering on white racial grievance and calls for white men to turn out. Ocasio-Cortez pointed to moderate voices like Reps. Tom Suozzi and Seth Moulton, who argued that supporting trans rights hurt Democrats, as misguided.

She encouraged people to engage in direct communication and join physical communities to combat despair and build resilience.

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She’s talking about “moderates” who are trying to blame it on defense of LGBTQ…

Because surely what the Dem party needs to do is move further to the fucking right and abandon the Dem voter base.

Despite the fact that Trump ran a campaign steeped in white racial grievance and the fact that MAGA influencers were literally calling for white men — specifically — to get out to the polls, some commentators have resorted to tired takes about Kamala Harris losing because the party leaned too much into “identity politics.”

The Democratic ticket didn’t actually lean into identity politics, but some in the party have settled on that line of thought as well — such as Reps. Tom Suozzi, D-N.Y., and Seth Moulton, D-Mass., who suggested that Democrats’ support for trans people’s rights helped spell their doom this cycle.

We can’t keep electing “moderates” just because the wealthy, corporations, and foreign governments like Israel keep giving them hundreds of millions of dollars

Shit, if anything that should be a reason we don’t vote for them.

This a class war going on, and the only side fighting it is the wealthy.

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Unfortunately where I’m from (the self centered shithead part of NY) moving to the right is EXACTLY what they want… I’ve had no shortage of people tell me they only voted for Kamala because she dropped the progressive stuff and was taking on Republicans in her cabinet. Of course the propagandists have done a wonderful job this cycle associating progressives with antisemitism so that did wonders for us too…

I think we just need to accept that America is a far right country and we’re the miniscule minority that wants change… I was already depressed about the result but then hearing just how many selfish bootlickers are out there made it even worse.

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So your idea is to keep ignoring the third of the country who never votes because “both parties are the same”…

And you think a better strategy would be to continue to drag the Dem.party right, even tho when we try that the result is always depressing Dem turnout, Republican turnout staying the same, and Republicans winning the majority of the time?

I just don’t see how that’s a logically sound plan that has any chance of stopping fascism.

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I just don’t see how that’s a logically sound plan that has any chance of stopping fascism

I don’t see any way of stopping fascism in America. By some definitions we’ve been living in fascist America for a long time we just haven’t had an authoritarian leader yet. The state uses the violence of the police force to crush leftist protest. The media enforces all belief in corporate interests depending on the media product you’re consuming. Some still toss a bone on occasion by pointing out wealth disparity but always denigrate policies aimed at correcting it.

I don’t want the Democrats to move right yet again, but if that’s what people want then we aren’t the majority. I want a party that isn’t Democrats. We’re not moving them from within, that hasn’t worked at all.

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abandon the Dem voter base.

I’m Ok with that at this point. The Dem voting base is just liberal Republicans at this point. It’s time for something else.

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The Dem voting base is just liberal Republicans at this point.

No it’s not.

They’re a very small but vocal amount of Dem voters.

But they’re not the problem, they voted R against Obama and Obama still flipped red states in 08.

Not only are they not the voting base, the party literally doesn’t need them.

The problem is those people run the freaking DNC, and are the ones that keep dragging the party right.

The problem is party leadership and the solution is changing party leadership.

Not doubling down on party leadership to further piss off the Dem voter base.

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I don’t fully agree with this, but I agree with enough of it that it doesn’t really matter. To add to it, now is the ideal time to push for reform in party leadership, after a major loss.

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I’m liberal and voted blue. I think we have gone off the deep end for trans. 100% for non hate, but I would like girls to be able to play sports without allowing former boys.

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If that was a large issue you’d have a point. But it’s almost never happening. There are just very very few examples of boys transitioning to girls while being on puberty blockers long enough to compete as a girl and then dominating.

It’s a made up problem.

But the right won’t just stop at “girls sports” they’re going after adults who have never played a sport in their lives.

But even tho the trans population in it’s entirety is still a small amount of people, that doesn’t mean it’s ok to abandon them.

Start abandoning subgroups and the larger group won’t be strong enough to protect you when the fascists come for one of the subgroups you belong to.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_

Obviously defending the innocent from fascism should be reason enough, but you’re literally saying it’s not enough, so I have to appeal to the selfish need for self preservation most humans have.

Empathy sadly needs to be learned, so not everyone has it.

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