People think that Israel ethnic cleansing of 2 million people in a few months is worse than ethnic cleansing them over 4 years!

If Biden set any form of red line, or at least Blinken wasn’t bluntly lying everytime he goes there or the US didn’t Veto UN resolutions to “allow aid” maybe we can argue the dem would be better but as stand nothing will change.

I don’t think Biden and Harris are the same person. I think she was cowardly but I also think she wants to be hip and loved and could have been shamed with sustained pressure. Not a sure thing, and likely to be weak sauce, but a possibility. I don’t see that as likely with either Biden or Trump. And the possibility of stopping something as big as genocide and permanent land grabs is much better than no chance at all.

But I also don’t blame Arabs for voting (or not voting) emotionally for the actions of Biden and the inaction of Harris now. Don’t kill someone’s family and then ask them to think of the bigger picture.

You have no understanding of soft power or geopolitics. Trump just being elected (not even in charge yet) has already emboldened Netanyahu and his cronies. They are already talking about annexing the West Bank.

See, this is how you are going to try to innoculate yourself from any kind of guilt here, and I will not allow it.

You don’t get to just pretend that “well, we can never really know if Kamala would have been different” while Palestinians are eradicated from the face of the planet you fucking clown.

I voted for Harris. But pretending anyone with criticism of a genocide is some Russian stooge or at best an anti-Democrat dupe is part of the whole narrative that keeps you from engaging with moral ideas in a complex and serious manner. Posts about Israeli crimes have not stopped, criticism of Joe Biden’s policies have not stopped (because he’s still president and is still ignoring his own red lines on the war crimes), and as soon as Trump is the one doing the deed it will switch to him. To liberals convinced issues only exist for supporting or opposing Democrats, it’s all just a made up controversy, but it’s about the genocide, stupid.

But speaking of that, the election’s over, Harris lost and Biden can’t run again, are you ready to call politicians who passively (and sometimes actively) support a genocide being committed with US funded weaponry bad people yet? I thought this aversion to criticizing Democrats was just supposed to be a political strategy, but somehow still “the genocide” is only a criticism that seems to be applied to American actors in a future sense.