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It really was, well except for Rola Makki, her view was just bog standard Republican cognitive dissonance.

Still, absolutely infuriating that they would not vote for Harris even when they knew deep down it would be worse and while I can feel for them and actually do agree with some of their points about Democrats not really being behind minorities, I still find it hard to really feel too bad knowing they not only screwed themselves, they the rest of us too.

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Do we actually know that Kamala would be any better for Gaza than Trump? Because Biden never altered a single Trump policy when it came to Israel. He enabled Israel just as strong as Trump did.

Moreover, Trump has told Israel that he wants them to wrap it up quickly. That likely means a surge in violence in Gaza in the next few months. And while the death toll from those months will exceed what they would have been under Kamala, the conflict had no end in sight at all under Biden/Harris.

What evidence do we actually have, other than just vibes, that Trump will be worse than Harris? I mean sure, he personally despises all Arab people, but it’s not like Biden or Harris really see the Palestinians as human beings either. Trump is just more overt about it.

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Do we actually know that Kamala would be any better for Gaza than Trump?

Given that Israel just announced a plan to annex the West Bank with Trump’s blessing, I’d say the answer is that yes, she would.

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That isn’t something new. They’ve been annexing land in the West Bank for years.

It may accelerate under Trump, but it’s nothing new.

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Do we actually know that Kamala would be any better for Gaza than Trump?

1000% yes and I don’t believe you’re really asking

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Ok. What is Trump going to do that Biden hasn’t already been doing? Everything I’ve seen is that nothing will change except perhaps an acceleration. Whether Gaza is genocided in 1 year or 3 is pretty irrelevant.

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It would have been better because like her hero Biden, she would have quietly said Netty was mean behind closed doors.

She would have kept sending guns and money, and defending them from repercussions so they continue to have free rein to commit genocide, but it would be better.

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They didn’t lose the election for Harris. She failed to get voters across the board. And they’re the one group with the most justified reason to vote spitefully and a conveniently “othered” minority to focus on so the people who ran that terrible campaign don’t have to own up for their failures and liberal white America that thought “the Democrats don’t need to do anything for them because they have no other options” can avoid recognizing that that was a bad sentiment with which to build a coalition.

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They didn’t lose the election for Harris.

Right… I don’t think there are enough Arab- and Muslim-Americans in PA to swing it, and she needed that to win the election, even if she had won MI. I suspect it was her failed messaging on the economy that made the difference. But we don’t have final numbers yet so it’s hard to tell.

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Whereas the incredibly close elections like 2000 or 2016 could be blamed on basically any one group as pleased the accuser, this one is an across the board loss. That’s not going to stop the moderates from trying to scapegoat minorities though, because otherwise they might need to address that a dedicated dive to the center was an abject failure.

Next up on the list, the trans people, who despite being entirely ignored by the campaign are clearly the people who need to be shoved back in a corner for the convenience of white moderates.

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