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My dude, there are mountains of evidence for actual fascist policies in Ukraine. I literally linked you Poroshenko openly talking about doing ethnic cleansing. Absolutely hilarious you’d be trying to pull Jewish president bullshit when Israel is conducting a genocide in Gaza. Maybe at least try to update the talking points you’ve memorized.

Still even as high on propaganda bullshit as you are you have to admit that the war could’ve been over in the first two months if the west didn’t step in and stop negotiations. You scum are the ones actively doing everything you can to drag it out.

I can’t wait till the US bails you lot and then we’ll see how brave you all.

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there are mountains of evidence for actual fascist policies in Ukraine.

Yet you did not link to any. Random speech is not a policy, Poroshenko is not an Ukrainian official or a government member, as opposed to Miedwiedew who is and is threatening nuclear annihilation even to non-combatants, aside from aiding the kidnapping of Ukrainian children which is literally a form of genocide.

you have to admit that the war could’ve been over in the first two months if the west didn’t step in and stop negotiations.

Any non-russian sources for that claim? And no, the war would not be over, you’d have guerilla war for decades. You understand nothing of Slavic mentality nor know nothing of the history of the region.

Oh, and what will we do without all the marvelous US help? Repeat history I guess…

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I did, but you just keep ignoring it. However, since you keep insisting I’ll link some more as was widely reported by western media. The fact that you keep pretending they don’t exist shows that you’re a liar.

And of course, then there are nazis running rampant in Ukraine including the highest levels of government

Any non-russian sources for that claim?

Plenty, even Nuland has admitted this just recently https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiS2dg_atfc

Ukrainian negotiators confirmed it https://www.aaronmate.net/p/ukraines-top-negotiator-confirms

Arestovich confirmed it it https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/1975okx/ua_pov_arestovich_in_english_says_he_and_the_rest/

A member of the negotiating team confirming this https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/11/24/7430282/

The fact that you don’t know this shows what an utter ignoramus you are. I guess one has to be to ally himself with fascists.

And no, the war would not be over, you’d have guerilla war for decades. You understand nothing of Slavic mentality nor know nothing of the history of the region.

Both my parents were born in Ukraine you sad troll, I think I understand Slavic mentality perfectly well. Something ignorant nazi boot lickers such as yourself will never understand.

Any non-russian sources for that claim? And no, the war would not be over, you’d have guerilla war for decades.

There won’t be any guerrilla war for decades because all the fascists you love so much have gone to die on the front already or fled the country. At this point the fascist regime you support is reduced to kidnapping people off the street and gang pressing them to fight.

Finally, let me educate you a bit on Ukraine since you’re utterly clueless about it. It was cobbled together by USSR and eastern parts of Ukraine were part of Russia, and are inhabited by Russian speaking people who see themselves as Russian. Again, don’t take my word for it. We can take a look at a few slides from this lecture that Mearsheimer gave back in 2015 to get a bit of background on the subject. Mearsheimer is certainly not pro Russian in any sense, and a proponent of US global hegemony. First, here’s the demographic breakdown of Ukraine:

here’s how the election in 2004 went:

this is the 2010 election:

As we can clearly see from the voting patterns in both elections, the country is divided exactly across the current line of conflict. Furthermore, a survey conducted in 2015 further shows that there is a sharp division between people of eastern and western Ukraine on which economic bloc they would rather belong to:

Ukraine is not some homogeneous blob, but a large country with complex cultural and ethnic situations. Most people outside western parts of Ukraine never wanted this war, and they just want the war to end. The way this all ends is that everything except the nationalist rump state will be absorbed into Russia and then Europe will be left to deal with the remaining far right nationalist who will feel betrayed by you lot, and who have been making contacts with fascists all across Europe this whole time, sending them all the weapons that disappeared. Enjoy what’s coming to you.

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None of this justfies invading another country, unless you want to justify invasion of Afghanistan or Iraq.

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