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It’s a lot quieter since the election. Almost like they were, paid or not, bad faith actors with one goal.

Hm.

I happen to be of the opinion that they were all, or almost all, just useful idiots who truly believe that Trump winning would result in the FALL OF THE AMERIKKKAN EMPIRE and subsequently some kind of world socialist revolution. Instead of, you know, Trump’s slump just being sludging up all extant institutions and encouraging crony capitalism and repression of workers’ movements the world over.

I mean, they probably still believe that, for that matter, but being confronted with the reality of ushering in fascism triggers some cognitive dissonance with their performative allyship, and they don’t like that.

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I say this with no sense of irony or desire for the fall to happen; but he hasn’t even taken office yet, time will tell [sigh].

I still struggle with the internal conflict of 1) wanting this to all just work out and we come out the other side 4 years from now with our democracy intact, albeit with a lot of changes I disagree with or 2) hoping for stage 2 of FAaFO to unleash the leopards while I laugh and the idiots who voted against their own best interests cry that their faces are being eaten. The human in me really hopes for the former, but the wanna-be-standup-comedian in me has a darker heart.

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I say this with no sense of irony or desire for the fall to happen; but he hasn’t even taken office yet, time will tell [sigh].

Oh yeah, my point isn’t that they haven’t ‘succeeded’ in that goal of seeing the US collapse; they very well may have depending on how things shake out. My point is only that their actual motivations were not, largely, their stated motivations, and the starkness of what is facing minorities in the US now makes them uncomfortable, knowing that this is what they were cheerleading for. And also that the collapse of the US isn’t going to look anything like they think it will.

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ahh gotcha. 100% agree! aka FO in full effect haha

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Sounds like there was a wave of bannings too, judging by the comments.

There will be plenty of topics to come that will provide similar outlets considering what is pending.

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It is extreme derangement to support a war on Russia that is making Russia stronger, and creating inflation in west. Making neocon evil a liberal identity because of the perception that Trump criticizes the stupidity is being victimized by disinformation and neocon manipulation. Public is too dumb to not hear 20 years of propaganda against Putin/Russia, and believe Russia doesn’t need to defend itself from US diminishment.

War on Russia being stupid is not Trump support. His neocon cabinet supports ending it just to make just as stupid or stupider wars on Iran and China. When progressive brains suddenly turn on war by an R president being bad again, some hope exists for America. That hope has a history of failing, but the complete dementia of believing CIA/State Department’s only instance of innocence in the last 70 years is a Ukraine colour revolution where 0 “Maidan liberals” got into government is an insanity that must be dispelled.

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