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In my experience people who are against more Ukraine aid think that the dollar amount we send is actual cash that can be spent in other places, rather than pallets of munitions that don’t keep forever anyway.

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It’s literal economic stimulus, US sends them old shit, and buys new and more expensive shit from local military suppliers. This is the “creating jobs” thing the right likes so much, except when it’s against Russian interests

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Yes, but it is really inefficient. If we simply ignore the nuke threat it would probably take the US a month of bombing to restore pre 2014 borders.

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And a part of that is old stuff that would be decommissioned so the cash is to make the new products. Or so I have understood it.

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nah that’s right. we’ve sent ukraine a shit ton of basically decommissioned shit. and even then we’ve been weirdly stingy, and unresponsive to their non military aid requests (their biggest ask is glass)

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Seems weird to ask the US for glass when they can get it from a lot closer, assuming we’re just talking about normal glass.

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Uhh… why glass?

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And we’re also saving a bunch on disposal costs for the old stuff.

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Even for new weapons and ammo it is usually just spending on the local weapons manufacturers so basically just supporting your own economy.

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Good point. Chuck Norris-style thumbs up.

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This is the most obscene attempt to understate the US’s involvement in the war in Ukraine I’ve ever seen.

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Da comrade, USA always fault. Very fault.

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Not always, but it’s the fault of the USA far more than it should be. Like a pants shittingly stupid amount of the time. Almost as pants shittingly stupid as Americans who pretend that isn’t the case.

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