Just a vibe check of the Lemmy community with a deliberately exaggerated meme.

A reddit post would get flooded with argumentative mini-essays from folks who canā€™t string together 5 words in-character.

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I feel like youā€™ve missed the point of the comment youā€™re replying to

No, a barbarian is not expected to deadlift IRL. But if a barbarian walked into the middle of a situation and declared he was going to solve it with Athletics, without explaining how he was going to do that, he would be met with blank stares. You need to state intent. ā€œIā€™ll use Athleticsā€ is meaningless. ā€œIā€™ll pile up these boulders into a staircase so we can climb over the wallā€ is a course of action.

Similarly, ā€œIā€™ll use Persuasionā€ is meaningless. Worse, are the people who just say ā€œIā€™ve got proficiency in all the charisma skills, so Iā€™ll just use whatever oneā€™s most effectiveā€ lol. ā€œIā€™ll use my wit and charm to convince the guard that we have been invited to the castleā€ is a course of action. ā€œIā€™ll use facts and logic to convince the guard that it is in his best interest to allow us into the castleā€ is a course of action. I donā€™t care if youā€™re charismatic in real life, but if you canā€™t even summarize what youā€™re trying to say, how is the rest of the game world supposed to respond to it? ā€œIā€™ll Persuade themā€ is only the first half of a sentence.

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This makes sense but I think still has a small problem. Someone with good real life people skills is going to be better able to put together a cogent argument, or understand the social dynamics and where to apply pressure.

I donā€™t really know how to solve this. It quickly becomes a ā€œplayers making these decisions is the whole gameā€ thing.

But I do think that if you have someone whoā€™s trying to be a social face without the real life skills, it is okay for the GM to give more hints. Remind players that the knight respects honor and honesty, that the thief is scared and just wants to eat, and so on. Hopefully from there even a shaky player can figure out being honest with the knight is a better move than deception.

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Iā€™ll use facts and logic to convince the guard

My next character is definitely Ben Shapiro in disguise

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Alright you need a Wooden Greathammer, dump your charisma, and play it up as Lawful Evil.

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