Summary

Trump’s popular vote share has fallen below 50% to 49.94%, with Kamala Harris at 48.26%, narrowing his margin of victory.

Trump’s share of the popular vote is lower than Biden’s in 2020 (51.3%), Obama’s in 2012 (51.1%) and 2008 (52.9%), George W. Bush’s in 2004 (50.7%), George H.W. Bush’s in 1988 (53.2%), Reagan’s in 1984 (58.8%) and 1980 (50.7%), and Carter’s in 1976 (50.1%).

The 2024 election results highlight Trump’s narrow victory and the need for Democrats to address their mistakes and build a diverse working-class coalition.

The numbers also give Democrats a reason to push back on Trump’s mandate claims, noting most Americans did not vote for him.

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Can you honestly tell me that you would support your state casting their EC votes for Trump, even though a majority of your state voted for Harris?

Can you honestly say you expect the citizenry of every state to put the will of the nation ahead of their own? Ahead of their neighbors? I mean, most of these states are already using all sorts of shady methods to keep “undesirable” people from voting. The last president went so far as to attempt a coup, and his supporters loved him for it.

Do you honestly believe they’re going to tolerate their state voting against their professed wishes?

Would you actually tolerate your state going against its own voters?

The best that the NPVIC could possibly accomplish is to allow a simple majority of the Supreme Court the opportunity to appoint the presidential candidate they prefer.

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Yeah I would. Honestly, I would best prefer a Proportional type system, that way 10% of people voting yahoos get 10% of the power, even if I disagree with them completely. Of course I would want a fair system that is suitable for something more modern than horse and buggy information transmission. Working within an unfair system to try to undo it is understable, but why defend it only when it suits your interests? That’s the kind of thing fascists do.

For a national government I would like to have the support of the nation behind it and the states/provinces to have the support of each state. We already give unequal power to each piece of land in a Senate, and in the US HoR now too because it hasn’t changed the number of seats in a while.

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Working within an unfair system to try to undo it is understable, but why defend it only when it suits your interests? That’s the kind of thing fascists do.

While there may be a viable solution to the problems of the EC, you just explained why NPVIC is not that solution.

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Ok, while your points have merit, you have not tabled any better, realstic or alternative solutions than NPVIC to these problems, and have only offered criticisms to the solutions in progress. I will therefore conclude the discussion. Please have a enjoyable day.

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