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Guy whose cars run into stopped fire trucks thinks he’s an expert on computer vision.

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But was it a “stealthy” fire truck??

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Yes, but the car only had enough low-light cameras but not enough rudimentary AI

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They also sometimes lock people inside and burn them to death.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/terrified-friends-burned-death-tesla-34087725

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Speaking of fire trucks has anyone here ever read the emergency response procedures for teslas in severe accidents? When I was a volunteer we gave it a look over.

If I remember right, Depending on the model they recommend up to 8,000 gallons (~30k liters) to keep an overheating battery’s temp stable in case of fire or exposure to high heat. I’ll link the resource page here.

Our engine holds 700 gallons (5.2k liters) and the typical tanker in our area holds 2,000 (7.5k liters)

That’s a house fire level response for a single electric vehicle. Just getting that much water moved to a scene would be challenging. We have tankers, but how many city departments can move that much water? You don’t see hydrants on highways. And foam is not effective like it is for normal car fires. The future will be interesting for firefighters.

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I found a link on how the Austrian fire workeres handle this. The fire is extinguished first, then the remainders of the car are put into a special roll-off container (Abrollbehälter, AB) and driven to a gravel pit, where the container will be flooded with 21000 litres of water.

https://www.feuerwehrmagazin.de/nachrichten/news/elektroauto-in-flammen-einsatz-fuer-den-abrollbehaelter-e-brand-93315

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That’s interesting. Tesla says the cars shouldn’t be submerged but I wonder if there’s any serious consequence if you did?

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30,000 liters is 30m^3, which is a back yard swimming pool full of water.

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Now imagine a house on fire with a tesla in the garage or multiple vehicle accidents. Now you need that much more

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Someone died because one of those cars thought the broadside of a white semi trailer was the sky and drove under it

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I thought it mistook the semi that was crossing a divided highway as an overpass and attempted to drive under it?

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This is exactly how Ed Truck died. His capa was detated from his head.

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It is especially important to understand that Tesla’s struggles with navigation are entirely a result of Elon refusing to equip them with LiDAR. This isn’t some “The tech is really new and really complicated and we’re still figuring it out” problem. There is a very good solution to most collision avoidance scenarios, but Elon refuses to let them use it because he’s an idiot.

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