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I’m all for less bloat ware, but come one. The camera app or remote desktop are the least shitty ones. Its borderline to call them even bloatware.

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To be clear, they seem to be saying that those apps will still be preinstalled. They’ll just be easier to uninstall if you want to do so.

"option for the first time to uninstall the Camera app, Cortana app, Photos app, People app, and the Remote Desktop client. "

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Yeah, having the option is not a bad thing. Nothing changes for those who use the apps or want them there, but it lets people remove them if that’s what they want.

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I thought they dropped support for Cortana. Is she back (maybe as “The Weapon”)?

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My issue is the Solitaire and games. We have Win11 for Business (Switching to Enterprise soon) and I have to run a powershell script during Intune/oobe to rip out all the bloat.

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But Windows always came with Solitaire - even 30+ years ago. It was included originally to teach users how to use a mouse. Solitaire makes you click, double click and drag.

Removing Solitaire caused its own backlash. They can’t win with that one.

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my work is transitioning to it soon, I’ll have to find similar scrips soonish.

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I have an amazing resource for this kinda stuff. As soon as I an remember it and find it I’ll drops comment here.

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Windows 11 ships with a shitty featureless version of the remote desktop client. You have to download the “real” or “full” version from the Windows app store.

I found this out incidentally a few weeks ago and it is annoying having the app you need and some random imposter app with the same name clogging up search / start menu.

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Have they fixed the store version so it can do multiple monitors yet? Also local folder redirects?

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No clue sorry, that’s not functionality that I use.

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6 points

I mean I’ve never used either of those apps and my computer doesn’t even have a camera.

Sounds like textbook bloatware to me… 🤷‍♀️

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19 points

“if I don’t use it, it’s useless”

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24 points

Bloatware doesn’t necessarily mean it’s useless, but if even a reasonable percent of people don’t want or need it or shouldn’t be preinstalled. That’s bloatware.

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It’s bloat because a lot of people will never make use of it, so it’s taking up more space (bloating it) for no appreciable gain. It should be easy to install if you do want to make use of it, but not literally every piece of software should be installed just because some people will use it.

It coming pre-installed is also harmful to third parties. Many will just choose the MS version because it’s already there, rather than potentially find another group who’s made similar (maybe even better) software for the same purpose.

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5 points

one mans bloat is another mans treasure

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Agreement. But they are not removing them so much as adding the option to uninstall them right? So functionally it’s thereof needed still.

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RDC could be a good option to uninstall for businesses where the machine acts as a terminal and you don’t want those devices launching RDC to begin with Not sure why it hasn’t been allowed already.

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Every company I’ve worked for so far had me use RDC at some point, either to connect to a server or to an app.

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