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71 points

I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again. Their racism ties are stronger than their union ties.

They voted for him for their prejudices, not for their workers rights.

They’re going to get the racism they wanted, they just thought he’d also support their unions. They’re upset they can’t get both things, but they won’t trade their racism for union support, even now. They want both, but if they can have only one, it’s racism. They’ll just bitch about this.

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You realize the union is against this acquisition? If this sale goes through, US Steel executives get a windfall and union members, without any protections, get to look for another job. Trump, Biden, and Harris all campaigned against it.

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Union leaders at the Irvin Works in West Mifflin say 95% of their members are in favor of the Nippon merger, and many of them were at the Trump rally in Pittsburgh one day before the election.

The union leaders say they were initially skeptical of the deal, but support grew after they met with Nippon executives who visited the area during the summer. Nippon pledged to spend $1 billion to upgrade the 86-year-old hot strip mill at Irvin.

https://www.wtae.com/article/us-steel-nippon-trump-steelworkers/63085379

Says the steelworkers union organization officially opposes it, so sounds like the union leadership is split but the workers support it.

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5 points

The jobs are even at more risk if US Steel goes under. Unless nationalization is an option.

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It should be. There’s a few industries you have to prop up even if they’re wildly uneconomical because we know for a fact what happened the last time nations let globalization ruin their war production capability. Hell the American steel industry is arguably the single most important industry for about 120 years and arguably the main reason the allies won either world war.

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If tariffs are increased and migration reduced, there is a good chance the working class will get more economic power long term. The inflation will sky rocket, but so may blue collar salaries. I believe that’s i big reason why Trump won. Sometimes the gut or common sense triumphs the neoliberal dogma.

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I doubt salaries will skyrocket, sure there will be more people being hired to meet domestic demand increasing but I doubt that companies will actually pay more to their employees. And even if they do I can’t imagine that it will be a significant increase when taking into account the inflation that will be caused.

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The tariffs don’t mean that there will be an increase in domestic production. It means manufacturers will seek out a different source for cheap materials. If those happen to be domestic, that’s good. Most likely they will be from some other nation like India.

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The supply and demand should at least be in favor of blue collar. But there might be a lot of political repression and union busting. Still, there will for sure be some shift in economic power, that will favor unions and the value of labor in general. Exciting times ahead. Similarities with 1920s are overwhelming.

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6 points

Interesting, but wouldn’t higher salaries be cancelled out by the higher inflation?

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Yes, but there might be a shift in power. It can have a progressive effect as long as there are enough jobs. Everyone will become more poor in absolute terms for sure. It could lead to more domestic productivity enhancing investments, which hopefully will lead to better education and work conditions.

But to be fair, nobody knows what will happen. We’re all just guessing and hoping. Usually the poor get fucked no matter what. It’s a gamble. But the current trade balance is for sure unsustainable and it relies on military domination (which also is unsustainable).

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5 points

Holy fuck you believe that too, don’t you?

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What do you believe?

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3 points

Could you better explain this cause-effect relationship between higher tariffs coupled with reduced migration and increased blue-collar salaries?

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