Comment by mkwt@lemmy.world on Solarpunk praxis enters the chat

Pedantism: Smokey the Bear is employed by the US Forest Service, not the National Park Service.

More pedantism: It’s Smokey Bear, no “the.” Wikipedia

Pedantism 2: Preventing forest fires was a huge mistake and has helped set the stage for the current epidemic of gigantic wildfires.

Naturalistic Fallacy

Controlled back burning needs to be done. Just letting them run rampant is not a good idea though.

Forest fires are natural and important. By doing it in a controlled fashion, you limit the damage an unplanned fire can cause. I’ve seen forestry people do it. They had a truck with a literal fuckin flamethrower on the back just driving by and torching brush on the side of the road and letting it spread.

Strange. I wonder if this is the same as “hunters need to hunt deers because we have no wolves”.

Normally trees die and stay there, etc. I never heard that natural old growth forests need wild fires.

Pedantic lvl3:

Uncontrolled campfires would still be a problem in a well managed forest. Forest fires in healthy forests are still dangerous for hikers or unknowing inhabitants.

Pedantic lv4 a few hikers dying is less bad than preventing even uncontrolled forest fires since forest fires are part of the natural cycle of most forests and are entirely necessary, and the forests have adapted specifically to unpredictable forest fires.

Pedantic rapid fire:

The policing of poor campground usage is not the same as systemic forest management pointed towards natural fire patterns.

Return fire:

Natural fire patterns are unpredictable and are in fact not patterns, moreover if forest fires were allowed to happen as frequently as they did before human forest management, the fires themselves would be less severe and pose practically no threat.

Additionally not building tinderbox buildings in previously forested areas or areas backed up against forests while allowing fires to happen as they will would minimize damage and loss of life while massively improving the ecological health of the area.

Seriously though responsible visitor education is a completely parallel effort to woodland urban interface planning, controlled burns, natural land restoration etc.

I was gonna say, we need more forest fires at this point, not fewer…

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