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You seeing protests != Protests not being suppressed

Lots of things go into suppression like people getting arrested and held without any charges. Activists and their families and colleagues getting harrassed or intimidated by police or Israeli organizations. News organizations framing protests and their message in misleasing ways to sway public opinion against them.

I am from Germany and all of those are absolutely happening so wtf are you talking about? Thats also exactly what the article talks about so are you just lazy or what?

Germany is (at least politically) after the US the biggest defender of Israels “right to defend” genocide excuse. In terms of open hostility and police crackdowns the UK might come before tho.

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Huh? You think that the UK, which has affirmed that it will honour ICC warrants (i.e. arrest Netanyahu if he came to the UK), is somehow more pro-Israel than Germany?

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Honouring ICC warrants is the bare minimum, if you dont do that, then you are just a lawless oligarchy driven state like the USA. But yes the UK had a couple very recent examples of extreme police overreach in using anti terror laws to threaten and hold protesters and their family members.

Also affirming that they will do something is not the same as doing that thing. Looking at their treatment of Assange and climate protestors, they arent really to be trusted when it comes to human right and due process.

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Right, I’m not trying to portray the UK as a beacon of goodness, but Germany has gone far beyond in suppressing any dissent towards Israel and noticeably has not said that they would respect an ICC warrant, just that they would “examine” it.

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I have yet to see anything like this.

Of course, when you start to wave a Hamas-flag, the fun is over. And that I do not count as suppression.

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I have yet to see anything like this.

Then you werent looking

Just read the article ffs they arent writing this for fun. Its not the best article but it gets across the point that Germany is on the wrong side of history once again.

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The judge ruled that the phrase, “from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free,” condoned a crime and “could only be understood as a denial of Israel’s right to exist.” Mirroring the U.S. but taking it one step further, the latest German resolution also calls for the expulsion of students responsible for “antisemitic acts” in schools and universities. U.S. politicians agree. In December, the House passed a resolution condemning antisemitism, which deemed the slogan “a rallying cry for the eradication of the State of Israel and the Jewish people.” In reality, the phrase emerged in the 1960s as a call for equal rights within a democratic secular state, but that hasn’t stopped the phrase from becoming a lightning rod for accusations of antisemitism, particularly since Hamas attacked Israel on October 7.

Legendary Jesus was born in Palestine. He advocated feeding the hungry, healing the sick, clothing the naked and caring for prisoners. Jesus was a communist antisemitic.

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Do you consider Palestine flags to be hamas flags? Because you get the same treatmnet when you wave a Palestine flag as if it was a hamas flag. Kind of like how Israel treats every Palestinian over the age of 4 as a Hamas member.

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Never seen any police member even blinking when a Palestine flag is shown. It’s usually a dozen flags. And I have never noticed this to be a problem.

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