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6 points

He still banned being gay. He signed a law that made homosexuality punishable by five years imprisonment. Stalin is cancelled for being homophobic.

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10 points

Tbf literally everyone before the 1970s is canceled for that.

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No, not literally everyone. 10% of the population was gay back then, same as now. The institute of sexology in Germany was performing bottom surgery for trans women.

Homophobes want you to think gay acceptance is new, but it’s not. There have always been people who could tell right from wrong. Stalin wasn’t one of them.

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Not everyone

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that doesn’t make it better

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The argument isn’t to say its better or good. Rather, it is arguing that all likely alternatives to said politician would show the same homophobia policy. So given a frame of reference of politicians of that time, their LGBT policy doesn’t make them worse than realistic alternatives.

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5 points

Stalin didn’t ban being gay, because again, the USSR wasn’t a dictatorship. If the USSR did, that obviously sucks, but ostensibly democratic US and Britain have done worse.

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He signed the law when it arrived on his desk. If he had been an ally, he wouldn’t have signed it. Drag can’t imagine Joe Biden signing a law like that, even if the house and senate approved it. Joe Stalin is held to the same standard by history.

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If he had been an ally, he wouldn’t have signed it.

can’t imagine Joe Biden signing a law like that

Bringing up 2024’s Biden is a non sequitur. We already went over this: no mid-20th century Western state was a gay ally.

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Yeah Stalin still had issues and it was awful that the working theory at the time was homosexuality was a result of western decadence since literally all the rich people they found were doing weird sex stuff and Germany and the US killed all the gay communists and socialists they could and burned their books so there was no real example they could find of any ‘deviance’ being innate.

That all being said towards the end the crack down wire off and five years labor is still better than what any other country at the time did to cure the gays.

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