Telegram is just actually superior in terms of features I don’t get it.

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Why does anyone choose Telegram or WhatsApp over Signal which is encrypted and audited? (Probably features I don’t care about, but they do)

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I agree that signal is superior in terms of privacy but a lot of people don’t care about that. And most people using WhatsApp DEFINITELY don’t care about that.

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Oh so we should only care about good and secure design when end users care about it!

Because you clearly can’t read the room that was sarcasm.

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I never said you shouldn’t care though??

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This undermines your whole original post.

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WhatsApp uses the same encryption schema as signal.

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Telegram let’s you send 2gb files, and stores them forever. Signal has a 100mb limit.

It also used to be easier to set up on multiple devices at the same time, but I believe that Whatsapp and Signal have improved that by now too.

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I’m not sure the file limitations are much of a factor when 100mb covers most files that would need to be sent through a messaging service. There are plenty of dedicated services for sharing larger files.

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I mentioned it because it was an annoying limitation for me. 100mb is not a lot for media and zip files nowadays. And I don’t know any good free services that will work more conveniently than simply sending with Telegram, suggestions welcome.

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Piracy tho. I can go to my telegram, search a movie title and click play and it just works.

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That’s the point tho, it negates the need for dedicated services for sharing larger files

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Why switch platforms if all your data is still being collected? This just provides another business with your data to sell and possibly have hacked. Sure, Telegram offers encryption, but it’s not enabled by default even though they advertise it thoroughly. This demonstrates they’re taking advantage of peoples desire for privacy simply to increase their user base while making the users + contacts do all the work.

As far as file sharing, with ProtonDrive I can use any messaging service and send a 500GB file if I wanted, fully encrypted with password protection and an expiration date. Telegram keeping the files forever doesn’t seem like a benefit either.

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Was going to post this :3

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Right?

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Signal is based in the US. Better to use something that is not based in the.US.

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As long as your messages are end-to-end encrypted, I don’t know why you would care about that. It’s proven that they do not collect any metadata that could harm your privacy and most of their stuff is open source. The signal protocol is a pretty solid protocol supporting E2EE. There are not even cloud backup options, so your messages can never be read from someone other than you and the receiver, unlike something like iMessage that has cloud backup option that backups your messages stored locally on your device probably in plain text to iCloud.

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It takes just one FISA court order to compromise Signal.

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I’ve been using Signal for a long time now, it was great until they ended SMS text support, then they started trying to turn Signal into a social media thing, I just want end to end encryption without having to worry about somebody like Zuckerberg having access to my texts.

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does signal have multi device synchronization? on telegram you can start to write a message on one device and continue on another.

one of the feature i use most on telegram is saved messages to send stuff between phone and pc.

this is pretty much the only thing that is keeping me on telegram.

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