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The admins stated on Mastodon that they’re not going to defederate until something happens. Knowing Meta they shouldn’t give them the chance.

Here’s the link: https://mastodon.world/@mwadmin/110654590632768079

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77 points

Oh, looks like I’m switching instances.

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💀

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Yep.

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How do you do that? I’m subscribed to like 50 conmunities. Would I have to start all over? That doesn’t sound like it’s worth it.

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There is a python script floating around that will sync your communities, etc. I’d link but don’t have it handy.

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Just gonna name-drop the tool I made to do this :) https://github.com/CMahaff/lasim

It’s only been out a few days, let me know if you have any issues!

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Honestly it isn’t. Nothing about the Fediverse is private or inherently secure in that way. Everything is public. And you should assume that everything you publish through activity pub could eventually be looked at by anyone. If you want private or secure messaging there are non-activity pub open source secure alternate. In fact signing up for Lemmy there’s even a field to enter for one. Whether or not a server federates with meta. Meta is still going to data mine the ever-loving shit out of all of them. The point is. None of us are at Meta’s wim about being flooded with their toxic content.

Honestly I want to see meta flooded with our content. So much anti-threads anti Meta sentiment. Actual leftists. And not just make believe right-wing liberals who’ve been conditioned to think that they are left. It would be hilarious to watch Meta try to play wack-a-mole sanitizing everything. To please their reptilian corporate overlords. And if you don’t care and just don’t want to see it. You can always block them personally. Why let them data mine in peace. I say we make them work for it.

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I got like 150, that wouldn’t stop me. Plus you can use curl to export the list of the instances you’re subscribed to on your account.

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And done. I love federation.

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Same here, partner. Moved yesterday.

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Heck yeah. That’s a very balanced and rational approach completely unfuelled by emotions.

Can’t say the same for the top comment in this thread, lol.

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I agree with you!

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Oh look, this place is just like Reddit with the rational talk buried in the comments. Thank you for being here despite the apparently unpopular opinion we share.

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Is it more rational than only federating once they’ve proven that it’ll be fine? (instead of waiting for them to prove they’re not)

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Facebook doesn’t give a shit about its users and treats them and their data as a crop to harvest. On Meta platforms, you’re the product. On the fediverse, you’re just another user, free to do what you want. Disgust is indeed an emotion, and I’m 100% fine with being disgusted with Meta.

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So far on Lemmy I had never looked for the option to block a single user. You have changed that.

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Thats unfortunate. I’ll be moving instances then. Giving Meta a chance is a lot like giving a mosquito a chance to not suck your blood.

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Currently you can with with Lemmy Connect. Maybe with others as well, given the amount of apps coming out by the day. And I’m guessing they’ll fold the feature into Lemmy/Kbin proper sometime in the future.

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Currently, Connect has that option, but it doesn’t actually block the instance, it just doesn’t show feeds from that instance. So, technically, the two instances are still federated.

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How does one change instances?

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Same, I was only donating $2 a month but I’m not alone in finding this completely unacceptable. I applied at lemmy.ml. It’s the scorpion and the frog with these people suggesting we should just wait and see.

“~Let’s see if Zuck doesn’t act like an anti-competitive asshole this time” <–where the hell is the logic in that?!

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How do you move? I signed up through .world but don’t want a chance of touching the poo (meta).

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You just make a new account with another instance. You get about the same content as before.

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Its like that story of the frog helping the scorpion cross the river.

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This behavior is why the fediverse alienate users and makes it hostile for new people to join.

They didn’t do anything, yet. Give them the chance but start with 2 strikes on their account already. They fuck up, THEN you defederate. Innocent until proven otherwise.

Edit: go on, downvote me. Show me your face. Show me how you’re all against growth on Lemmy and niceness to each other.

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Innocent until proven otherwise.

Corporations like Meta have shown time and time again that they cannot be trusted to play nice with anyone else. Have we already forgotten about Cambridge Analytica or the plethora of other scandals they’ve been at the center of? The proof has been in plain view for a while now.

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Innocent until proven otherwise.

There are many years of proof already about facebook/meta acting very maliciously, actively breaking laws and being fined for it, is that not proof enough? How many more do you need before you can say they’re not innocent at all?

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If you disagree with me, we’ll then you’re just against niceness, admit you are! Admit you’re against niceness!

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Innocent until proven otherwise is a concept for criminal court.

We aren’t putting someone in jail, we are looking at their past business practices and deciding not to do business with them based on their obvious habits.

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“until something happens”

I suppose Metas history of actively being a bad actor working against societies best interests and enabling hate groups doesn’t qualify as ‘something’…

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-69 points

You didn’t say anything of substance.

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User pointed to a history of bad behaviour to counter the idea of “lets wait”. User suggested to learn from history and use that as a metric for decisions.

You just trolled your way into this and think consequentially you are ‘clever’. You are not.

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They had more substance than your comment.

Yours is of less substance than areogel.

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yeah that this point meta just existing is bad

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People think I’m exaggerating when I say Meta is evil, but this is one of the stories that jumps to mind. Awful company.

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7 points

Is mastodon.world the same as lemmy.world?

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The admin is the same person, so is expected that they apply the same policy for both instances.

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Is there a list of who’s blocking or not?

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Oh damn guess I will migrate to lemmy.ml and use that until I find out if lemmy.world defederates or not. (Edit turns out it is run by tankies and they are federated with lemmygrad.) While I may or may not stay on lemmy.world depending on if we federate with meta or not. I will no longer suggest Lemmy.ml.

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I’m not in a hurry to migrate, as Threads doesn’t support federation yet, but is not a bad idea to keep an eye on other instances.

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What a shame guess I’ll stick to my alt over at lemm.ee for the time being

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Tolerance paradox applies here too

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until something happens

What exact behaviors are they looking for that would cause them to push the block button?

Threads can do very well for themselves without the fediverse as they are already demonstrating. What real motive do they have to join the fediverse except to shut it down?

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You can read the lemmy.world admin response here

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Thank you and the other admins for the thoughtful and transparent answer.

We would like to express our disappointment with the negative and threatening tone of some of these discussions

Considering that a great percentage of the Fediverse userbase are ex-users of Reddit and Twitter that left due to CEO actions, I get that they (including me) don’t trust Meta or want anything to do with them. I agree that discussion should be civil nonetheless.

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Thanks for this, going to delete my lemmy.world account now.

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Bloody hell, I literally just switched to Lemmy.world, do I really need to switch to Lemmy.ml? Come on guys

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I switched to lemm.ee

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They’re still federated with exploding-heads and rammy.site so they didn’t make my short list

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