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I think my question was misunderstood.

Your original post makes it seem like you think NATO are the bad guys here because they are supplying weapons to Ukraine to defend themselves.

I asked “who attacked who” because to me, it seems pretty clear that Russia, a dictatorship whose government has a history of human rights violations and disregard for human life, is doing a bad thing when they invade a neighboring country and start shooting missiles at civilian homes on a daily basis for a year and half.

Could you explain how this is not a clear “Russia doing bad thing, we should help Ukraine” situation?

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23 points

Ukraine to defend themselves.

Do you think the people of eastern ukraine have a right to defend themselves?

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Your original post makes it seem like you think NATO are the bad guys here because they are supplying weapons to Ukraine to defend themselves.

nato is willing to fight to the last ukranian, going so far as scuttling peace talks, which you can read about in a ukranian Pravda article about Boris Johnson’s visit.

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Don’t bother. There is no actual intelligence or reason there.

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You’re responding to the user who refuses to spend five minutes reading a reply, I think you’ve misplaced your estimate of intelligence or reason.

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NATO is mostly responsible for the dead Ukrainians. Ukraine has no reason to fight this war. If they lose, fine, the Russian part gets renamed and a higher minimum wage. Only rich assholes lose out. If Ukraine wins they get dead sons and burned schools but the US oil companies are happy.

It is pretty clear Ukraine shouldn’t be fighting this war for the US companies.

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What percentage of Ukrainians support defending their country?

Should it be their decision whether to keep fighting?

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If it were up to Ukrainians to collectively decide whether or not to continue the conflict, Zelensky would not have canceled the elections for his position later this year.

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Dead people don’t get a vote. People lining up to die are even less trust worthy about their choices.

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I understood. It’s an unserious question, so I gave an unserious answer. China isn’t militarily supporting Russia. They sent some kids toys and the same raw materials they exported everywhere anyway.

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Ah, I see what happened. I didn’t address the China part of your original question because I actually agree with you there. They aren’t militarily supporting Russia based on this article. I don’t see why China would do that, since it wouldn’t really benefit them.

I was addressing part 2 of your comment, where you implied that NATO is doing a bad thing by supporting Ukraine. Unless I misunderstood - I assumed “They are the good guys trying to end the war” was sarcasm.

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