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Before I graduated I was encouraged to apply for a job that required a four year degree.

Don’t worry about it - we know you, they said.

When I submitted my application online it was automatically rejected because the application program correctly flagged that I didn’t meet the requirement of having a four year degree.

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This is when you call them directly and tell them that. They can override the automation.

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and if they won’t/can’t, then there’s an easy answer as to whether it’s worth working there at all

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So, what do you do? The problem is it’s also difficult from the hiring side. Every opening has dozens to hundreds of applicants, most of whom are not qualified. No one can keep up with that, and recruiters/hr are horrible at it. Automation sucks, but it’s the quickest, easiest, fairest way to identify a smaller group that you hope are the ones who are qualified

We can put someone like an intern at the top of the pile because we know them, officially.

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Sounds like you need to rotate your technical staff into the recruiting process.

Do they spend any time speaking with recruitment/hr?

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Of course we all give feedback to recruiters, and typically ask for a new pile with the adjusted criteria. There’s even been times when we asked for everything, no filters, but we can’t afford to have technical people tied up going through piles of resumes

I do believe it’s tougher than it looks. Recruiters need to understand the field to know what to look for, and understand enough about what the company is looking for but they just don’t.

Earlier in my career it seemed like there were specialist recruiters who could do that: find the right people to place with the right company. However now it seems to have degenerated into salesmanship and quantity over quality. Or I don’t know if I’m just earlier in the process now, helping to identify who is worth interviewing, rather than just being another interviewer

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Its systems like that forced me to get an expensive qualification that I don’t need simply so humans will actually see my resume. I don’t need the qualification, I have industry experience going back over a decade but because I don’t have a magical qualification, that is recognized by the entire industry as being utterly useless, that didn’t even exist when I started in the industry I had to fork out £600.

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But how do they know you don’t need the qualification? I’m sure the people who know you could say, but what makes you qualified to a stranger?

It’s the same problem as standardized testing for school. Everyone seems u to understand it’s a bad idea except that you need something

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