I hate how โ€œanti-warโ€ has been hijacked by these people to mean, let imperialist countries invade whoever they want with no consequences. (in the case of tankies, any imperialist country that isnโ€™t in NATO).

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By stating it was provoked, youโ€™re defending Putin. Unleashing rape and murder on a civilian population is not something you โ€œprovokeโ€. Ukraine has a sovereign right to wish to join NATO or the EU, as any sovereign nation does. Putin does not get a vote in that.

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Remember the many times Russia tried to join NATO? Probably not.

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Yes, and I remember Russia demanding unreasonable terms as a condition for entering. They sabotaged that themselves. Russia demanded all kinds of foreign policy from NATO and demanded a special status within the alliance. They also did not want to follow the normal procedure for joining, like the other members did.

This is all from your own source by the way. Did you even read it or are you just throwing links around hoping people donโ€™t read them?

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Then, surely you are aware that American โ€œShock Therapyโ€ created the conditions that led to the current situation.

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