Hello everyone! I know that Linux GUI advanced in last few years but we still lack some good system configuration tools for advanced users or sysadmins. What utilities you miss on Linux? And is there any normal third party alternatives?

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I personally would like a systemd gui. There have been several attempts in the past, but none is maintained.

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On openSUSE, I’ve apparently got at least this thing for looking at SystemD services:

Allows viewing the services for the different boot targets, as well as the service files. You can also start/stop services or change their start mode (on boot vs manual).

Well, and there’s a JournalD viewer with filtering:

Not the most developed GUIs, but…

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SystemD is far too much of a poorly thought through mess to have anything like a sane GUI configuration, it doesn’t even have a sane textfile based configuration. We’re going to have to wait fir SystemD to crumble under it’s own weight and be replaced with multiple, simple, cleanly designed components before we have any hope of a sane config again. Sort of like we used to have before a certain someone/some company (depending on how conspiratorial you’re feeling) decided to come along and muck it all up.

/rant

Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk Rant. You may gather I dislike SystemD quite a lot.

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For anyone else reading along: This person is talking out of their ass.

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I also find that calling systemd “SystemD” is a tell that someone is unfamiliar with or has a conspiratorial relationship to it. It’s named “systemd”, all lowercase (but I’m likely to capitalize it on sentence starts like a normal word). Using an ungrammatical uppercase D at the end of the word, that isn’t even something the creators claim is correct, is … a choice.

(And it’s a choice that reminds me of e.g. how rabid anti-cyclists in Norwegian can’t even spell “cyclist” correctly, but instead consistently use “bicycleist”.)

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Its far too convoluted. A systemd gui for… DNS? Boot services? User Services? tmp file management? Everything?

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Everything! And a virt-manager like tool for nspawn! And for the faux-cron jobs! Make it as byzantine as systemd itself

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That’s the point. That systemd is convoluted, so a gui could help. And yes, for everything. :)

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My point is there is no way to sanely create a GUI for something has it’s tendrils in… Everything. In fact, there’s no sane way to do any sort of UI for such a beast.

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Maybe the system should be made less convoluted.

I mean, do we really need a half dozen network management services, all broken in their own way and none that do everything you need?

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All of those are entirely separate components; I have no idea what you’re attempting to imply here.

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Those are all things systemd manages… as well as logs, udev, etc etc.

What kind of gui too could you even imagine would sanely present all of that?

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